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Topic: What kind of Fender Pedal Steel is this |
Martin Abend
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 12:32 pm |
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Hi Folks,
Can you tell me something about this series? I was offered this guitar in playable condition for $950. Should I buy it?
Thanks for your help!
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Micky Byrne
From:
United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 12:55 pm Re: What kind of Fender Pedal Steel is this
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Martin, those were made by the Sho-Bud company in the late 70's and into the early 80's. Same undercarriage as the Sho-Bud's of that time, beware of "Pot metal" parts like knee levers breaking, but good replacement parts are available fom various sources. If there are 4 knee levers, that don't sound a bad price....trying to convert it to the British pound 
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Ron !
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 12:57 pm
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Don't know much about these fender S-10's......but for $950???.....buy it.
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Dan Burnham
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Greenfield, Tennessee
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 1:20 pm I'd say so
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Martin,
First off, what the guys said is true, EXCEPT, the one you are showing here is a little different. My brother has one of the little fenders so I'm going to tell you the difference between this on and his just from looking:
1. This one has the raised neck, he doesn't.
2. The keyhead is also raised, his has the ash tray keyhead that sits inside the body.
The one like my brother has sells on ebay for 450 -600 dollars. I'm pretty sure this one has the pull-release system, which is OK but that is about it.
If the copedant on it is ok, I'd buy it. It's all in what you want. I'd buy it to have as a collector. This one appears to be the top of the line for the series of Fenders that Shobud produced.
Dan
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Tamara James
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 1:23 pm
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It's an artist pro. I have a matching student S-10 from the same series. 3 pedals, one knee lever. That one looks like 4 knee levers. The 2 adjusting legs in the back give it away as an artist-pro.
I don't know how that one would sound, but mine has a great tone for what it is. Several very good players have sat down to it and got an awsome sound from it. |
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Dan Burnham
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Greenfield, Tennessee
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 1:25 pm
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Thanks Tamara,
My brother has one like yours. Is this one a pull release?
Dan
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Tamara James
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 1:28 pm
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| mine is all pull. It's my first and only steel so I don't have anything to compare it to. I got a copy of the little manual booklet if you would like it. there isn't much in it other than suggested tunings. |
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.
From:
Ayrshire, Scotland
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Bob Tuttle
From:
Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 3:24 pm
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| I'm pretty sure the guitar shown in the picture has a triple raise/double lower, all pull changer and Super Pro style undercarriage. |
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 3:29 pm hi
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Looks like 3 Knees.
ernie |
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Mike Winter
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 3:33 pm
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| My son has the D-10 version...it sounds great, but does have the cheap pot metal parts. If you replace those with stainless steel, it would be a keeper at that price...my opinion of course. |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 5:14 pm
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great price... GRAB it... They sound like Fender steels, NOT Buds..... I would be all over that one... bob
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 6:38 pm Fender
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I have a Fender D10 The the same color as the one pictured I have had it for at least 25 years plays excently.I have broken 2 lever. This was early on, learned not to be so ruff, The guitar plays great a good player could make it sound great. I have never broken a third string. Yhe quitar is a dream to strng. The strngs pass through a hole and loop over. It can almost be stringed one handley The only issue I have had with it is the fifth string sliding off the nut, especially after strng it. I paid $450 25 yrs ago. Tell the truth I have thought about selling it, but it sure is a good guitar and wouldn't let it go cheaply
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 6:50 pm Fender
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I have never seen this guitar in any other color. Did they only make in the color Did sho-bud make any other guitars for Fender, if so, what years?
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 18 Jan 2008 11:50 pm
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They made the Artist Pro, both D10 and S10, in black and mahogany. Buy that guitar. It's worth a grand easily. It's pretty much a late 70's Pro 1 with a funky pickup.
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 19 Jan 2008 8:04 am
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A Chris said, there are a few mahogany ones floating around that are really pretty.
And as Bob said, they are essentially a Shobud with a different tone - Fender had the pickup wound to their specs. They don't sound like a 400/800/1000/2000 cable guitar, but they are between that and a Shobud. I've only heard a couple, but they remind me of GFI's except without as much sustain. My GFI Ultra has a very Fendery-sound, but with sustain for days. Part of that, I think, is the lower-impedance pickup (mine's around 15k as I recall, which sounds quite different from the typical 20k-and-up modern steel pickup, and right between most steels and the lower-impedance of the cab;e pull Fenders, which run in the 9.5k range with some rather wide variations...since they wound by "turns", not impedance, and hand tension can make a big difference.)
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Jan 2008 6:12 pm
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The way it appears on my screen, according to the above picture, I believe this guitar has the teardrop-KL's, not the pot-metal, although some problems were also encountered with the mounting-bracket breaking!
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 21 Jan 2008 6:55 pm Fender
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Has anyone ever seen one with George L Would any one recommend changing from the originals
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 22 Jan 2008 5:27 am
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I have one of these, a black D10. The lever mount brackets on the knee levers moving right are under more stress than other pot metal parts on these guitars, and naturally mine is missing the right knee moving right,lever.
The changer is unusual as it hasn't got an axle, works on the "knife edge" principle, or some such thing. Anybody know where this design came from?Changer is double raise, double lower.
They sound like "West Coast". I love that Mooney sound on early Buck and Merle, and my guitar sounds like that. Maybe not exactly, but close enough to fool me.
Very easy to play with nice wide string spacing, I wonder if the spacing is wider than a Sho~Bud?
Kind of ugly though...Jerry |
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