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Topic: re 40 year Dekley verses new Zum Stage 1 and Carter starter |
Jeremy White
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Steve Gorman
From:
Gilroy California
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Posted 13 Jan 2008 8:34 pm |
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| I don't know the history of the Dekley guitar company, but I don't think they were being manufactured that long ago. 40 year old Dekley? 1967 or older? I think there's no such thing. If I am wrong here, someone will correct me. And that looks like a student model, if so, $1300 US is probably too much. I like Dekleys but think I would go with the new Carter or Zum. |
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Earl Foote
From:
Houston, Tx, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2008 8:43 pm Dekley
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| That Dekley is probably a nice guitar but it has only one knee lever. Even though there is a lot of good music to be made with only one knee lever, I would go with four which the Zum and the Carter both have. I own a Stage one. I can't comment on the Carter because I've never sat down behind one of them. I do like the Zum however and I have been playing 30+ years. It's just a good solid pedal steel. |
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Fred Bova
From:
Connecticut, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2008 9:20 pm
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| Nice PS Guitar. It is a "Pioneer". Aluminum Exstrution Body. I have one, I took off the vinyl covering, built an Alum Pedal Bar, and I just had it all powder coated Gloss Black, looks great. But $1300.00 US is too much. I believe it is a much better built psg than the Carter Starter, but it has a simple Pull/Release Changer,.. sounds good, but a bit limited, and the legs it comes with are not adjustable. This is an easy retro fit , but just adds to the price of the guitar. I figure on asking around $500.00 for mine with original case. |
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Fred Bova
From:
Connecticut, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2008 9:26 pm
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| Oh, by the way, these were built in the 70's. For a year or so, it was even offered as a kit. It is advertised in in one of the old PSG mags. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 12:02 am
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Forget the Deckley. You absolutely do not want a guitar with only one knee lever. If you buy it, as soon as you read about the other levers, you will have outgrown the guitar.
The carter Starter is has 4 knee levers. That factor alone makes it a far better choice. I cannot comment on the stage one as I have never seen one.
But it is better to have more knee levers on the guitar that you can grow into, than not have enough and have a guitar that will slow down your progress and limit your growth.
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 1:58 am
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i still suggest a Zum Stage 1 Jeremy
unless, you want to shop around some more
(Right here on the Fo'...............................bro')) |
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 3:10 am
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Based on the number of complaints concerning Carter Starters, I would strongly encourage you to avoid them... at any price.
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Jeremy White
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 3:46 am
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Thanks again SGF people.
I am still churning over all the advice and comments and after contact with Doug Earnest at Zumsteel, am starting to lean that way a little. ( a lot really)
Will make a decision soon after the "Tamworth Country Music Festival" in New South Wales, Australia, which starts this week. I have a few friends scouting around there for me. Best odds in this country to find a PSG for sale!
regards and many thanks
jeremy
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John Roche
From:
England
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 5:13 am
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| Hi Jeremy, do you know Donna Boyd, she is a very good friend of mine, if you see her give her my best regards.. |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 7:49 am
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| IMHO, as the owner of 3 Dekleys, I say that guitar is too limited. It's not expandable at all. That's a starter Dekley at best... |
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Jim Eaton
From:
Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 8:42 am
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ZUM Stage One all the way!!!!!
JE:-)>
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Dave Van Allen
From:
Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 9:02 am
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I recommend the StageOne. I am very pleased with mine. It is physically stable, stays in tune and sounds good.
I cannot compare it to the Dekley. The Carter Starter was not a good "fit" for my large frame. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 11:22 am
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Them StageOne's must have got sharp knee levers
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Jim Eaton
From:
Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 3:24 pm
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Just trying to get on CMT anyway I can!! LOL
JE:-)> |
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Mike Winter
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 3:28 pm
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| Zum Stage One |
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Gordy Hall
From:
Fairfax, CA.
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 4:20 pm
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Jeremy,
I have a Dekley very similar to the one pictured, but mine has 3 KL. It's a nice guitar, the only pedal steel I've played, but I can see the limitations compared to others.
It sounds real pricy for what you get. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 4:47 pm
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| my thoughts on 'starter' guitars or 'student' guitars, is that you'll get tired of that connotation soon...plus most are too expensive as far as i'm concerned....i recommend finding a used pro model for less money and higher self-esteem! |
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Damien Odell
From:
Springwood, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 5:47 pm
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Jeremy,
I will be at Tamworth playing steel gigs all week from this Friday, and I know a fair few other steel players will be there also. Let me know if there is anything I can do.
0412 169 439
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Damien Odell
From:
Springwood, New South Wales, Australia
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 5:59 pm
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well, lets talk conversion
Live rates at 2008.01.15 01:49:22
1.00 AUD = 0.899216 USD
EDITED for correction:
The Carter Starter costs $795 new 3+4
The Zum stage 1 is I believe around $895 with 4 Knee levers.
The Dekley ( 3+1 ) in the add is $1450 AUD which is $1290 US.
It appears that the selling prices are not the same, the Dekley in the add is the most expensive .
Initially I had the Stage One confused with the Black Jack. Sorry.
Last edited by Tony Prior on 15 Jan 2008 2:46 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Earl Foote
From:
Houston, Tx, USA
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Posted 14 Jan 2008 6:24 pm Stage One
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| The Stage One is $895 and comes standard with four knee levers unless somthing's changed since I bought mine. |
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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