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Tommy R. Butler


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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2007 4:47 pm    
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http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/loop_libraries/showloop.asp?SPID=229

looks like they did it. I am going back to look at it a lil more and give it a listen !!

I went back and gave it a listen and read a lil more about it. Looks like Troy Klontz had some input so the steel tone is prob derived from a DERBY LOL
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Duane Reese

 

Post  Posted 30 Dec 2007 7:37 pm    
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Soooo... What does one do with this? Is it a collection with a whole gob of tempos, keys and chord transitions so a producer can just plug them in? Man - that Derby is going to be heard on everything now! Laughing

Sounds like stuff that will sit good in just about any mix. That's kind of a neat idea really.
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Steve Alcott

 

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New York, New York, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2007 8:49 pm    
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I hope whoever did this has the thrill of hearing himself on a hit he didn't get paid to play on.
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A. J. Schobert

 

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Cincinnati, Ohio,
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2007 8:55 pm    
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Well that puts alot off us out of a job!
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Duane Reese

 

Post  Posted 31 Dec 2007 6:26 am    
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Well I'm sure that anything substantial enough to become a "hit" would use the real thing. I can see this being used for things like commercials, background music, etc.

How much it cuts into steel players' work depends on whether the producer(s) was going to use a real steel player otherwise, or just do without steel. I'm thinking in most cases it'd be the latter. I'd sure rather hear something with these loops than a synthesized steel sound.

I've known of some people buying royalty-free loops (and owning them thereafter) but they weren't just individual parts like this; they were more filled-out song nuclei. It'd be a good market to get into if you are prolific at writing music.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2007 6:41 am    
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Sheesh! That may impress some people (if they don't have good ears). I'm glad the clips were short - that stuff is so "pitchy", it hurts! Whoa!


Amateurs, "basement engineers" may find this sort of stuff useful.

But then, that's precisely why they're amateurs.
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Duane Reese

 

Post  Posted 31 Dec 2007 8:26 am    
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He was actually doing that on purpose, Donny. It's a technique called "vibrato"; you roll the bar slightly to give the steel character, as well as hone your intonation. Give it a try sometime! Razz
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2007 8:35 am    
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Anyone who has ever used a drum track, synthesizer for string pads, B3 effects, etc. (including myself) really can't complain about this. As steel players we've been sheltered from this phenomenon for many years, long after the keyboard players, string players, drummers, bassists, etc. have felt the pinch. It had to arrive sooner or later. The best thing you can do, IMHO, is continue to improve your musicality and beat them in the world of IDEAS.
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2007 9:05 am    
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Sounds like it would be fun to play with but I don't see gettin all wound up and worrying about it replacing real steel guitar.
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John Roche


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England
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2007 10:46 am    
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I have all of the steel files for nashville wire,
They are quite good , a little toppy and a little bit of bar noise.
Some of the files are 2 or 3 notes long but you can piece them together into licks, I have not used them in the studio yet but i have used them to learn runs ,I loop the file and play until I have it off. there are about 500 or more files three full songs
wuth 5 variations for all the chords and the solo for each song. You could do a nice country backing track if not over used.. I did hear that they use them in Nashville , maybe one of the session players would know..
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Dustin Rigsby


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Parts Unknown, Ohio
Post  Posted 1 Jan 2008 10:20 am    
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[quote=


Amateurs, "basement engineers" may find this sort of stuff useful.

But then, that's precisely why they're amateurs.[/quote]

Even Les Paul was an amateur at one time.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2008 9:21 am    
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Duane Reese wrote:
He was actually doing that on purpose, Donny. It's a technique called "vibrato"; you roll the bar slightly to give the steel character, as well as hone your intonation. Give it a try sometime! Razz


Sorry, we'll have to disagree to disagree. I know the difference between "pitchy" and "vibrato" (or "pitchy with vibrato", for that matter). This may sit well with those who tune ET, but I'm a JI guy, and it just sounds "less than desirable", to me.
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kevin ryan


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San Marcos, California
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2008 6:08 pm    
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I did those for Sony a few years ago. I don't think it will effect anybodys recording dates.... It was intended for the ma and pa recording studios for the most part. I have heard some of it floating around in other places.
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Gene H. Brown

 

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Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, Canada
Post  Posted 17 Jan 2008 9:50 pm     what yall think of this
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Well, like Charlie McCoy said in one of his songs "Everybody Stand Up and Holler For The Union"
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kevin ryan


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San Marcos, California
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2008 12:59 pm    
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I agree with Jim... I did 100's of titles for karaoke producers in Japan 20 years ago... I was just grateful to be squeaking out a living as a musician.. Right now I am working on large country library for a producer in Los Angeles for a couple of desktop apps... When I did the Nashville Wire for sony, I was just thrilled to be working. This stuff is not a threat to any players out there, actually the reverse. It's getting the steel guitar out there...
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Dan Burnham


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Greenfield, Tennessee
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2008 1:11 pm     Kevin is Awesome
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If you haven't heard Kevin Play, the guy is an awesome player. The guy has some awesome licks to die for.

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kevin ryan


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San Marcos, California
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2008 6:55 pm    
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Dan, I really appreciate the kind words...
Thanks bud....Kevin
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