Broken "Promises"

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

I'm thinking that there are a multitude of broken promises made to ourselves to do this or that in earnest while in practice. Some of the promises are broken by unsuccessfully achieving goals, that are associated countless times with minor frustrations. There is something peculiar about determination. Not everyone can be found to be linked to the representative groups of determined individuals.

Ken Byng · From: Southampton, England

Self discipline is key. Using time constructively for practice is the ultimate in time management. Sometimes we all set out in good faith to sit down and learn something new, and end up playing stuff that we already know.

Barry Blackwood · Posted 13 Nov 2007 7:52 am

Bill, sometimes people make promises under a certain set of conditions. When conditions change, it effects those promises as to whether or not they can be kept... Neutral

Phil Halton · From: Holyoke, Massachusetts, USA

"Some of the promises are broken by unsuccessfully achieving goals, that are associated countless times with minor frustrations. "

Forgive me for asking, but how does one go about "unsuccessfully achieving" a goal? Is this doubletalk, or am I simply not educated enough to understand this? I've got a couple friends with PhD's, maybe I should run this past them. Phew! Shocked

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Eddie Cunningham · From: Massachusetts, USA

Bill , I used to promise myself that I would learn "tab" and to read music !! Still hasn't happened !! Too late now !! You can't teach an old dog new tricks !! Eddie "C" ( the old geeze )

richard burton · From: Britain

Could 'unsuccessfully achieving' be 'successfully underachieving'?

Charles Davidson · From: Phenix City Alabama, USA

I think a burning desire to do something is the secret,if it's playing an instrument,playing pool,football,baseball,auto racer,becoming a docter or lawyer etc,if you have to FORCE yourself to practice,you won't do as well,When I was a kid about 8 years old, I was obsessed with wanting to play the guitar,On my summer break while all my peers were out playing ball,going camping,etc,I was putting in 12 to 14 hours a day learning to play[after my fingers stopped bleeding]it got better,When school was in session would take my guitar to school and play it at recess,not bragging but did become a decent guitar player,because I wanted that MORE than any thing else,If you really WANT to learn,practice will be a joy,not a chore,don't you know.
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Duane Reese · Posted 14 Nov 2007 12:29 am

"Don't make promises you can't keep" is a good start. "Do what you have to do" is a good finish. If that doesn't seem to have the gusto, try the Nike approach: "Just do it."

Billy Carr · From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)

I think one has to be honest with themselves before anything. Sometimes we make promises and everything works out fine. Other times, they don't for whatever reason. I believe "Never Giving Up" is the phrase I choose to go by on a day to day basis. I've always had the desire to be a better steel player and continue to strive to be better. Steel guitar is a life long obsession for most players. The desire to learn more and play better to me seems to work better than other method I've found in 36 years of studying PSG. It's hard to make yourself sit down for a certain period of time regularly when you have other things to do that are more pressing at the time. But when I do sit down to play or just checkout a guitar, then I can usually spend as much time as I want without being worried about something else.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Like the hometown dentist, I'm not deliberately touching sensitive issues, or poking at nerve endings. Most steel guitarists possessing different levels of learned playing techniques, in producing tones, thrive on sociabilities that often develop into sustaining friendships. There seems to be an universal gathering of mind-boggling interpretations, expressed to counter the lack of progressiveness; including the nature of self-made promises that interact accordingly with disrupting attitude changes. Chances to learn from the musical approaches by fellow musicians, stands as the ideal method to strip away any doubts, that may exist, concerning neighboring abilities. It is fascinating to spend much time absorbing the musical techniques of others, and to view those determinations at closer ranges. The incidentals of the quiet approach, of making promises through a vague transmission of thoughts, is born of a natural tendency, to ascribe to the wonders of memory. I can see by the brevity of Richard Burton's comment that he commands a position of exactness. The benefit in this instance of clarification of innocent ramblings, positions oneself to revising many trivialities, which may prove to be a work order. Inane comments have the potentialities to evoke criticisms.

Bo Legg · Posted 14 Nov 2007 10:27 am

Promising yourself something is the early signs of insanity. You talk to yourself. Then you lie to yourself and then you start believing your lies.
We are driven by desire. We as humans exist because we desire sex and desire food and etc.
I didn’t get up in the mornings and go to work because I promised my self I would do so. I went to work because I had to pay for my desires.
I could go on for hours with this but I’ll just simply state “you either want it or you don’t want it and no amount of promising will change it.”

Duane Reese · Posted 14 Nov 2007 11:00 am

The problem with making yourself promises is that letting yourself down isn't unpleasant enough to keep you from doing it. Letting others down is.

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

In the antiquated Henry Ford Model "T", the firing order depended on a series of magnets and coil arrangements. Similarly, the messages here on this forum, containing indiscreet excerpts of nonsense, intermingled with kindness and direction, shows repeatedly, that the converging of "cranky" individuals remains a problem. Finding oneself sifting through the written words of members who trample down pure logic, sparks a determination to make promises to reduce such activities.

Jim Walker · From: Headland, AL

huh?

James R. Cole · From: Texas, USA

If someone promises NOT to make a promise they can't keep, are they making a promise they can't keep?

Barry Blackwood · Posted 15 Nov 2007 7:34 am

Bill with all due respect, IMO, your "pure logic" would confuse even Mr. Spock ...... Alien

Curt Langston · Posted 15 Nov 2007 7:44 am **administrative jargon**

Huh?

Ken Byng · From: Southampton, England

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Ken B.,

Having the ability to discredit others by labeling a reply as ambiguous or illegible, distorts factual data, and lacks a sense of direction. On this side of the "pond" a common practice is to recognize "hogwash". I believe that I've reached the level of having the ability to participate in exchanges, that contribute to worthwhile messages.

Duane Reese · Posted 15 Nov 2007 2:34 pm

Bill, we do appreciate your input, but could you please dumb it down a shade, so that it's easier to decipher?

Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Duane,

Thanks for the advice. It becomes a bit frustrating since most of the issues pertaining to steel guitars, have slackened to small percentages, and the will to learn is digressing.

Ken Byng · From: Southampton, England

Bill - I've said it before. Some of your posts have really interesting main topics and are thought provoking. However, they are sometimes marred by an eccentric style of writing that frequently leads one to ask "what the hell is he talking about?". We on this side of the pond call it Gobbledygook.

E.g. "There seems to be an universal gathering of mind-boggling interpretations, expressed to counter the lack of progressiveness; including the nature of self-made promises that interact accordingly with disrupting attitude changes". Confused

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Steve Norman · From: Seattle Washington, USA

I think Bo has been reading Schopenhauer,

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Bill Hankey · From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

Broken promises commonly integrate throughout the most respected members of our society. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it! Whether the case may originate from a musical sense, or simply promising to do something that never comes to fruition, by way of good faith; it matters not. Nothing is more degrading than a broken promise.

Barry Blackwood · Posted 16 Nov 2007 8:02 am

Except a broken 3rd string .... Winking

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