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Ken Byng


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Southampton, England
Post  Posted 22 Oct 2007 11:13 am    
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Just had a look at Bobbe playing his beautiful Jackson Guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhI3Ax_85-A

It's fascinating to watch some of the machine tuners moving backwards and forwards. This really is a radical design. My only question would be whether the tuners are robust enough to stand up to this movement over time. Its certainly incredible engineering.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Post  Posted 22 Oct 2007 7:57 pm    
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The tuners aren't moving, just the plate they are mounted to is moving, hence, no wear or strain to the actual key, is this what you mean Ken?

Bobbe
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2007 2:17 am    
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The one I saw, they appear to work just like the Hipshot "D Tuner" I have on the low E string on my Telecaster.
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Ken Byng


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2007 4:01 am    
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Bobbe - maybe it's an optical illusion but towards the end of the clip at least 2 tuners (strings 5 & 6) on your back neck appear to be moving while the others stay stationary. I didn't realise they were mounted on a separate plate. However now that you have clarified that, it makes sense. It would have been nice if your cameraman/lady had zoomed in onto the tuner mounting for a nice closeup shot.

What is the pedal action like on these guitars? It certainly sounds very nice indeed.

Ken
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 23 Oct 2007 11:33 am    
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Ken---go here: Jackson Website and click where it says "Click here for video". This shows you what you want to see.
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Alan Miller

 

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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2007 3:28 pm    
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Great playing, but does the sound seem a little thin / tinny to anyone else . Maybe its the amp settings ???
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Ernest Cawby


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Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 7:14 am     hi
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One of the Amps they were using in St Louis was one I bought from them in 19722, David bought it back from me in Birmingham at the show. It has a Black widow speaker in it. And upgraded transisters. Great sounding amp. The D10 I played in St Louis played as well as any steel I ever played. I will own one someday.

ernie
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 1:57 pm    
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Al Miller, the tone problem you are eluding to is not the guitar , as you correctly guessed but the microphone on the camera not being "aimed" at the amp. Notice the tone (treble)change at different camera angles? Also, the "tone" we are refering to in the title of the clip is really the "Timbre", not the amount of treble or bass.
On this clip, BOTH pickups are on, just to get the out of phase sound the guitar players get. This is not a setting I'd ever play with all night long, but only on special tunes, Travis, Atkins, and the like.
Allen, thank you for commenting,
Your buddy,
Los Bobbous
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 2:12 pm    
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Ken, you can see the keys mounted to the plates, and not to the key head. This is the same system Paul Bigsby used on several of his steel guitars in the fifties and sixties. The clip I did on www.youtube.com/bobbeseymour with my triple neck 10 string Bigsby is lowering the third string on the C6th neck the same way. I also had a double neck '52 Bigsby that lowers the bass string this way, JR.Brown has this guitar now.(the Billy Braddy guitar)
David Jackson had never seen this system and invented it on his own, when I showed him my Bigsbys with the same system on them, he about died. Swore he'd never seen it before! I believe him, and so did the patent office!
You just can't hold a good idea down, if you don't come up with it, someone else will.
And mine is working great, on all three guitars, Bigsbys and Jackson.
In 1959 I coverted a Rickenbacker triple neck to this "key twisting system". Doesn't breaks string and stays in tune wonderfully.
But the greatest thing of all is the incredible PEDAL ACTION! It's as good as you could ever want, possibly TOO good.
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Alan Miller

 

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Post  Posted 28 Oct 2007 11:06 am    
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Bobbe, I thought that It couldnt possibly be the guitar but I wasn't sure what it could be so I suggested amp settings . ( even a Maverick PSG doesnt sound thin) These Jackson are stunning to look at and I have always been drawn towards something different, so Im pleased to read your explaination.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Post  Posted 30 Oct 2007 7:55 pm    
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Allen, you are tooooooo nice, the problem was my playing really, I woke up in a trebelly mood that morning. I should have used picks, as a matter of fact, I was pretty dismayed at the tone when I saw it on youtube myself, I realized that the little cheap treble prone microphone in the camera was the culprit then. (and still is)
Your good friend,
Los Bobbster
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Brint Hannay

 

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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 30 Oct 2007 8:19 pm    
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Jack, I've only seen the videos, but I believe you are correct that the tuners work just like the Hipshot "D Tuner" (I have one too).

I'm curious to see how the linkage to activate them is done under the guitar.
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Alan Miller

 

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Post  Posted 31 Oct 2007 2:21 pm    
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Bobbe , I couldnt see the problen being the guitar and even more unlikely would it have been your playing.....at any time of the day or night.
A small camcorder microphone in a room with hard walls, reflected sound and theres the answer.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 1 Nov 2007 7:49 pm    
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I guess this would be a great video to "Re-Do".
Bobbe
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