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Topic: Mailman's lucky find! |
John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 9:02 am |
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Found these in his MIL's spare room closet!
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 9:57 am
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| Wow!! |
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Gary Stevenson
From:
Northern New York,USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 10:40 am MIL what?
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| Does Mil mean Mother-in-law? What a find!!!!!!!!! |
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Max Laine
From:
Pori, Finland
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 11:42 am
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| Looks like 100% original set, down to the strings and all! Enough reason to almost love your mother-in-law... |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 11:45 am
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| I think he told that the amp is a '56. Is the guitar that vintage also? |
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John Dahms
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Perkasie, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 2:27 pm
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That style Champion was made from '49-'55,(including the earliest ones with the slightly different fingerboard silkscreening). The volume and tone pots will be coded with a date. The amp looks like a '55 or later cosmetically. Again date codes tell the story.
Lots of great stuff here- I think you should part it all out.
I'm kidding of course.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 2:36 pm
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| I told him that it was unwise to turn the amp on. Old caps, etc.. He needs to decide whether he wants to keep it or sell it. If he sells it, leave it completely stock, and let the new owner have it serviced. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Posted 10 Oct 2007 9:00 pm
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It's a "narrow panel" tweed Champ, made between 1955-64, Model 5F1. That is the most desirable of the Champ amps.
The serial number is stamped into the faceplate. That number will pinpoint the year of production.
Champ 5E1, 5F1 (tweed)
C00001 to C00800 - 1955
C00800 to C03100 - 1956
C03100 to C06000 - 1957
C06000 to C08800 - 1958
C08800 to C12500 - 1959
C12500 to C15500 - 1960
C15500 to C16800 - 1961
C17000 to C19000 - 1962
C19000 to C21000 - 1963
C21000 to C23000 - 1964
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Steve Norman
From:
Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 13 Oct 2007 11:48 pm
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cant remember the name of the device, but you can plug into it and slowly bring the voltage up over hours and rejuv the caps if they havnt leaked out all over by now..
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2007 4:38 am
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| Variac. I've got one, but I don't think that works all the time. If it did, no one would get cap jobs! |
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Steve Norman
From:
Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2007 10:35 am
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thats the thing!, yeah probably caps from the 50s are not safe even brought up slow. Suck to ruin the whole amp trying to save replaceable parts. Caps where wax filled back then right?
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2007 12:25 pm
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| I'm not sure if they all were. My tech recapped my 52 Pro Amp. He emptied out the old caps, and put the new ones inside the old ones. Looks totally stock. |
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John Dahms
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Perkasie, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2007 12:37 pm
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It is perfectly alright to replace power supply caps to make an old amp stable. If you found a mint '55 Vette you would want fresh tires if you were going to drive it. Hell, driving on 50 year old tires would give you the wrong impression of the car and probably cause a more serious failure to happen. 50 year old strings would make a guitar sound different than intended as well.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2007 1:13 pm
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Sure John, I know that. But this guy's not a player, and will probably be selling the amp. It's in such great condition that a collector might prefer it stock, with the old caps, and never plug it in. Besides, my mailman can let the new owner fix it, and he won't lose much on the sale.
I've got at least a dozen old tubers, and they've all been recapped. |
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James Harrison
From:
New Brockton, Alabama, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2007 1:40 pm
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Most of the old Electrolytic Caps looked like Tin Foil and wax paper rolled together in a roll. Some can be restored. Last week I turned on a tube amp I built in 1960 and the caps got hot at once. I have not tried to restore them, since it is home made I am going to replace them.
That must be one happy Mailman.
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