Eden amps?

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

I am considering picking up one of these:
http://www.eden-electronics.com/products/amps/indiv/wtx260.asp
They use the same "switch-mode" technology as the Crate Power Blocks, but as designed by musicians and built by real technicians. I just bought a bass (darn you Perlowin) and I'll need serious headroom. Darvin Willhoite mentioned using Eden amps for steel in the Nashville 112 thread, and I'm thinking that one of these with my two Peavey 12" Black Widow cabs and a modeler might be the all-fired, near-mythical universal amp - guitar, bass, steel, nose flute....

Keith Cordell · From: San Diego

I used to sell those amps, and am very fond of them for bass; With the right cabinet I am certain that they would make a good steel amp, with a lot of power. I sold a couple of them to acoustic guitarists who needed a lot of juice when playing in large churches and outdoor venues.

Walter Killam · From: Nebraska, USA

Hi David,

I own the WTX-260, & play it through a Schroeder 1210 light cabinet. As a bass amp it is simply amazing! My primary goal was to lighten up, & this rig weighs in at around 45 pounds. The real payoff is pure Eden bliss, this thing will dial in any tone that I require & a I've found some new tricks to add to my arsenal. At ~250 watts it's a little shy in the volume dept, it works for most country gigs & practice, but I would need a little more power for any kind of rock show.

As a guitar/steel amp, you will probably want to use a modeling preamp through the line in jacks, I use a Pod 2 and get satisfactory results (I'm a bit of a tube snob when it comes to non-bass stringed instruments).

That said, this amp quickly replaced all of my other amps as my rig of choice, it's a bit pricey, but having played through mine now for a few months I'm really glad I ponied up the extra pennies for an amp I intend to use for a very long time.

Darvin Willhoite · From: Roxton, Tx. USA

I love my little Eden WTX-260, I use it for steel, guitar, and bass. As already stated, the EQ possibilities of this amp are amazing. For steel, I use an Eminence 4 ohm Neodymium speaker in a custom lightweight cabinet. I either use a Holy Grail reverb in the effects loop or the RV-3 on my steel guitar pedal board. The whole rig weighs about 25 lbs. I have a Rok Sak gig bag with a shoulder strap that fits this amp almost perfectly, which makes it easy to carry around. These amps also have a built-in DI if you need to run into a sound system.

You can see my settings in the picture, I didn't have to move much away from flat to get a good steel sound.

For guitar, I'm using an 8" Eminence speaker in a tuned enclosure, which gives me a really good jazz sound.

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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro.

Eric Jaeger · From: Oakland, California, USA

I play more bass than anything else.

Eden makes great amps, and you could probably use one as the power amp for just about anything. But I really wouldn't use a guitar speaker for bass anymore. Sure, people used to use Marshalls and Dual Showmans (Showmen?) for both bass and guitar, but bass amplification has changed a lot in 40 years. Three hundred watts is nominal for bass these days, and you don't have to turn up very much to find that peaks really do use that much sometimes. Which will pretty much toast most guitar speakers.

As was mentioned on another recent thread, the EQ of "desirable" speakers is pretty different as well between bass, steel, and guitar.

-eric

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

I have two Peavey Black Widow 12's, each of which is rated at 350 watts RMS, 700 watts peak. However, I called Eden and found out that the way their amp is wired, if I tried to use both 4 ohm cabs it would show a 2 ohm load and kill the amp and/or speakers. I could use just one cab, but I'll wait - someone's bound to make a switchmode amp with variable speaker loads soon, the same way even low-budget rack power amps now come. I have two Crate Powerblocks that will get me through for now, you almost feel stupid buying any electronics these days as it just keeps getting better & cheaper all the time.

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