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Topic: Changes In Order Of Importance |
Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2007 1:26 am
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Of the 4 or 5 knee lever changes on the E9th "neck", have you ever considered their order of usefulness? It would be interesting to read how others regard the advantages of a system of pitch changes. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 29 Aug 2007 5:09 pm
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Why not just put an Electronic Solenoid on each string and a footpad with endless combinations or better yet a computer using Bayes to anticipate when and which strings need to be raised or lowered. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Larry Strawn
From: Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Aug 2007 6:11 pm knee levers
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My knee levers in thier order of importance to me.
1. E-D# 4&8
2. E-F 4&8
3. F#-G / G#-F# 1&6
4. D#-D / D-C# 2&9
5. B-Bb 5&10
Larry _________________ Carter SD/10, 4&5 Hilton Pedal, Peavey Sessions 400, Peavey Renown 400, Home Grown Eff/Rack
"ROCKIN COUNTRY" |
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Joe Savage
From: St. Paul, MN
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Posted 29 Aug 2007 7:20 pm
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1. lowering the E's
2. Raising the E's
3. Lowering string 2 to D, C# and 9 to C#
4. Lowering string 6 to F#/ raising string 1 to G#
5. Lowering 5 to Bb
There are some great quotes in 'A Manual of Style'
from John Hughey, Weldon, Terry Bethel, and Jimmy Crawford concerning their views on the importance of these changes. I was just reading some of it last night.
The question there was "if you could only have one knee lever....."
Terry said E-F, Weldon said E-F, the other 2 said E-D#. Then they added the other knees in order of importance for each of them.
I just got a copy of this book a while back, after hearing about it years ago. Very cool book. _________________ Joe Savage
www.savagejoe.com |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 30 Aug 2007 3:38 am
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Mine would have to be........
1....Lowering Es to D# (Eb)
2....Raising Es to F
3....Raising 2nd string C# to D and D#
4....Lowering Bs to A# (Bb)
JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 30 Aug 2007 4:35 am
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first tier..
4 and 8 up and down
5 down
2 down 1/2 step
next tier, almost as equal
1 up
9 down
2 down a full step
7 up ( not the drink)
and then 2 up |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 30 Aug 2007 4:37 am
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Combinatorially, this covers a lot of ground:
1. E => F
2. E => Eb
3. G# => F# (split with B-pedal to give G)
4. B => Bb (split with A-pedal to give C)
5. string 2 Eb => D, string 7 F# => G#, string 9 D => C# |
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Bill Hankey
From: Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 30 Aug 2007 5:57 am
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Dave's augmented split is interesting on the 5th string. I had experimented with a positive stop (C) note change knee lever on the RKF positioning. Just a short push of the right knee would secure the desired augmented chord. I abandoned the change, and returned to the half "A" pedal. With a Jimmy Day setup, (my 4 & 8 lowers are LKL). Much of my musical expression is developed by raising 4 & 8 a full tone (RKL). Combining the change with A & B pedals, and bar control facilitates a highly desirable minor mode. Other than a short pedal, located between the A & B pedals, all of the standard changes are in place. |
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