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Bill Hankey


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Pittsfield, MA, USA
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2007 1:26 am    
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Of the 4 or 5 knee lever changes on the E9th "neck", have you ever considered their order of usefulness? It would be interesting to read how others regard the advantages of a system of pitch changes.
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Bo Legg


Post  Posted 29 Aug 2007 5:09 pm    
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Why not just put an Electronic Solenoid on each string and a footpad with endless combinations or better yet a computer using Bayes to anticipate when and which strings need to be raised or lowered.
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2007 5:20 pm    
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Here’s my list, in order of importance (in my opinion).

1. E to D# (Eb)
2. E to F
3. D# to D
4. G# to G / F# to G#

Those are the only knee levers I’ve ever used, so I can't speak about the 'importance' of any other levers. Winking
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Larry Strawn


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Post  Posted 29 Aug 2007 6:11 pm     knee levers
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My knee levers in thier order of importance to me.

1. E-D# 4&8
2. E-F 4&8
3. F#-G / G#-F# 1&6
4. D#-D / D-C# 2&9
5. B-Bb 5&10

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Joe Savage

 

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St. Paul, MN
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2007 7:20 pm    
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1. lowering the E's
2. Raising the E's
3. Lowering string 2 to D, C# and 9 to C#
4. Lowering string 6 to F#/ raising string 1 to G#
5. Lowering 5 to Bb

There are some great quotes in 'A Manual of Style'
from John Hughey, Weldon, Terry Bethel, and Jimmy Crawford concerning their views on the importance of these changes. I was just reading some of it last night.
The question there was "if you could only have one knee lever....."
Terry said E-F, Weldon said E-F, the other 2 said E-D#. Then they added the other knees in order of importance for each of them.
I just got a copy of this book a while back, after hearing about it years ago. Very cool book.
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 30 Aug 2007 3:38 am    
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Mine would have to be........

1....Lowering Es to D# (Eb)
2....Raising Es to F
3....Raising 2nd string C# to D and D#
4....Lowering Bs to A# (Bb)

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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 30 Aug 2007 4:35 am    
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first tier..
4 and 8 up and down
5 down
2 down 1/2 step


next tier, almost as equal
1 up
9 down
2 down a full step
7 up ( not the drink)


and then 2 up
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Dave Mudgett


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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
Post  Posted 30 Aug 2007 4:37 am    
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Combinatorially, this covers a lot of ground:
1. E => F
2. E => Eb
3. G# => F# (split with B-pedal to give G)
4. B => Bb (split with A-pedal to give C)
5. string 2 Eb => D, string 7 F# => G#, string 9 D => C#
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Bill Hankey


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Pittsfield, MA, USA
Post  Posted 30 Aug 2007 5:57 am    
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Dave's augmented split is interesting on the 5th string. I had experimented with a positive stop (C) note change knee lever on the RKF positioning. Just a short push of the right knee would secure the desired augmented chord. I abandoned the change, and returned to the half "A" pedal. With a Jimmy Day setup, (my 4 & 8 lowers are LKL). Much of my musical expression is developed by raising 4 & 8 a full tone (RKL). Combining the change with A & B pedals, and bar control facilitates a highly desirable minor mode. Other than a short pedal, located between the A & B pedals, all of the standard changes are in place.
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