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I've been using this tuning so far, low to high C E G A C E G D with the D on top being lower than the high E. That's pretty practical for lead work but I rarely do any lead work. I play simple chords ...

Can you really work it like a sort of combination of a volume pedal and a wah? I know it's not a real wah but still, how easy is it to control the tone with it?

This is a GREAT thread!! Whoa!

I tried getting one like this started a while back. But I failed.

And I didn't even try to get this kind of thread started Smile

But I'm enjoying it too. I'm ge ...

Wow, seems like this topic is more interesting to debate than I thought.

Anyway, my story is that I started out playing slide on guitar and my teacher taught me to block with my fingertips. And of ...

Nice clip, thanks. Yeah, I sort of knew what all three ways of blocking consist of, I was more looking for reason why you might prefer one or the other... or why you might like all three Smile

I've been told not to do that. And the bigger bar I'm using now, which definitely has it when it comes to tone, isn't lifted up that easily. Not even a tad.

I used to lift a lot before, that was n ...

I've played slide on regular guitar and on electric balalajka for pretty long. On both instruments I've damped with my fingertips for the most part. Sometimes the whole thumb for the lower strings on ...

I thought the guy who told me this was joking but I have to admit now that he was right. It's easier. From what I can feel it comes from the hand movement actually being smaller since the bar is bigge ...

Then, for you, it IS superior
Don't assume the same is true for others.

You know, it almost borders on arrogance. I mean, people have only developed the standard notation system for a bunch of cen ...

No one method is best.

I don't really agree with that statement. It's too diplomatic Smile

I think it's fair to say that standard music notation is the best way of writing down music. So far. An ...

That's true b0b, and that's a good method if you know how to read music, and you know the notes on your instrument.

And it would seem natural to assume that even pedal-steel players know where the ...

India has had a slid version of the veena for ages. It's known as vichittra veena in the north and gottudadhyam in the south.

Notes & Tab... each gives us 1/2 of the total picture.

I'm not against tab, it has its place and use. However, and this is espeically true for young guitar players who play regular guitar, usi ...

I don't play PSG...

Terje, You do not play pedal steel guitar. ...and you are telling us how do-able it is to play standard notation on a pedal steel guitar? Confused

People who play regular guitar ...

It sounds to me like some of you are looking for tab to solve the problem that you would otherwise have to solve yourself. Where and how to play something is a problem that needs to be solved at one p ...

I wouldn't think tab written for a specific instrument would be intended to be used on a different instrument. e.g. in this case tab written for a Pedal Steel Guitar and a specific tuning such as the ...

Standard notation was invented for instruments such as keyboards and horns, for which there is a one-to-one correspondence between the written note, and the one place to play it on the instrument.

...

It works for all instruments and regardless of the tuning they happen to be in.

Her vibrato rivals Robert Randolph at times! Wink

Maybe I'm pointing out something you already noticed, but anyway Smile

Like all traditional indian classical musicians I've heard she doesn't really ...

OK, so the man who suggsted the D on top knew what he was saying. It makes no sense on paper, at least not to someone who has not played pedal-steel before, but in real life it's very practical and ev ...

Now I've spoken to the guy who suggested the D on top and finally understood that the pitch of this D is lower than the high E and G-strings to enable fast runs. Interesting, perhaps, I'll try it out.

Low to high: C# E G A C E G B

That covers a lot I think. I can play C, C6 (but that voicing will sound like Am, at least on it's own), Cmaj7, Am, Am7, Am9, A, A7, A9 and Em at the same fret.

S ...

So, regular C6 on the top 6 and then A and F below that. Gives you more bass if nothing else, huh? Smile

However, it's more often that I play a dominant 7th chord than a major 7th and the minor tria ...

Hm... Bb C E G A C E G, right? That's not bad either I suppose and you still ahve the regular C6 on the middle six strings. My only "complaint" would be that you end up with a C7 that has th ...

I'll learn to slant better than I do and I realize it's a must but still... if I can make it easier for myself I will Smile

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Topic: How to tune an 8-string when only playing chords for comping
Terje Larson Replies: 3 Views: 1438	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 9 Sep 2008 8:25 am Subject: How to tune an 8-string when only playing chords for comping
Terje Larson Replies: 3 Views: 1438	I've been using this tuning so far, low to high C E G A C E G D with the D on top being lower than the high E. That's pretty practical for lead work but I rarely do any lead work. I play simple chords ...
Topic: What about the Fender volume/tone pedal?
Terje Larson Replies: 1 Views: 621	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 18 Jul 2008 3:50 am Subject: What about the Fender volume/tone pedal?
Terje Larson Replies: 1 Views: 621	Can you really work it like a sort of combination of a volume pedal and a wah? I know it's not a real wah but still, how easy is it to control the tone with it?
Topic: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 17 Sep 2007 9:50 pm Subject: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	This is a GREAT thread!! I tried getting one like this started a while back. But I failed. And I didn't even try to get this kind of thread started But I'm enjoying it too. I'm ge ...
Topic: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 16 Sep 2007 11:33 pm Subject: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Wow, seems like this topic is more interesting to debate than I thought. Anyway, my story is that I started out playing slide on guitar and my teacher taught me to block with my fingertips. And of ...
Topic: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 25 Aug 2007 8:18 am Subject: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Nice clip, thanks. Yeah, I sort of knew what all three ways of blocking consist of, I was more looking for reason why you might prefer one or the other... or why you might like all three
Topic: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 25 Aug 2007 7:48 am Subject: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	I've been told not to do that. And the bigger bar I'm using now, which definitely has it when it comes to tone, isn't lifted up that easily. Not even a tad. I used to lift a lot before, that was n ...
Topic: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 25 Aug 2007 6:29 am Subject: Pointers on damping... still new for me...
Terje Larson Replies: 57 Views: 14996	I've played slide on regular guitar and on electric balalajka for pretty long. On both instruments I've damped with my fingertips for the most part. Sometimes the whole thumb for the lower strings on ...
Topic: Easier to slant with a bigger bar... surprised!
Terje Larson Replies: 0 Views: 792	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 25 Aug 2007 6:24 am Subject: Easier to slant with a bigger bar... surprised!
Terje Larson Replies: 0 Views: 792	I thought the guy who told me this was joking but I have to admit now that he was right. It's easier. From what I can feel it comes from the hand movement actually being smaller since the bar is bigge ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 22 Aug 2007 12:08 pm Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Then, for you, it IS superior Don't assume the same is true for others. You know, it almost borders on arrogance. I mean, people have only developed the standard notation system for a bunch of cen ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 22 Aug 2007 10:24 am Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	No one method is best. I don't really agree with that statement. It's too diplomatic I think it's fair to say that standard music notation is the best way of writing down music. So far. An ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 22 Aug 2007 2:17 am Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	That's true b0b, and that's a good method if you know how to read music, and you know the notes on your instrument. And it would seem natural to assume that even pedal-steel players know where the ...
Topic: Kamala Shankar
Terje Larson Replies: 19 Views: 4020	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 19 Aug 2007 8:45 pm Subject: Kamala Shankar
Terje Larson Replies: 19 Views: 4020	India has had a slid version of the veena for ages. It's known as vichittra veena in the north and gottudadhyam in the south.
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 17 Aug 2007 10:03 pm Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Notes & Tab... each gives us 1/2 of the total picture. I'm not against tab, it has its place and use. However, and this is espeically true for young guitar players who play regular guitar, usi ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 17 Aug 2007 9:11 am Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	I don't play PSG... Terje, You do not play pedal steel guitar. ...and you are telling us how do-able it is to play standard notation on a pedal steel guitar? People who play regular guitar ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 16 Aug 2007 10:04 pm Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	It sounds to me like some of you are looking for tab to solve the problem that you would otherwise have to solve yourself. Where and how to play something is a problem that needs to be solved at one p ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 16 Aug 2007 11:15 am Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	I wouldn't think tab written for a specific instrument would be intended to be used on a different instrument. e.g. in this case tab written for a Pedal Steel Guitar and a specific tuning such as the ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 15 Aug 2007 11:24 pm Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Standard notation was invented for instruments such as keyboards and horns, for which there is a one-to-one correspondence between the written note, and the one place to play it on the instrument. ...
Topic: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 15 Aug 2007 1:24 am Subject: The number one reason standard notation is better than tab
Terje Larson Replies: 64 Views: 24104	It works for all instruments and regardless of the tuning they happen to be in.
Topic: Kamala Shankar
Terje Larson Replies: 19 Views: 4020	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 11 Aug 2007 10:43 pm Subject: Re: Kamala Shankar
Terje Larson Replies: 19 Views: 4020	Her vibrato rivals Robert Randolph at times! Maybe I'm pointing out something you already noticed, but anyway Like all traditional indian classical musicians I've heard she doesn't really ...
Topic: How about this tuning for an 8-string?
Terje Larson Replies: 11 Views: 1991	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 9 Aug 2007 10:41 am Subject: How about this tuning for an 8-string?
Terje Larson Replies: 11 Views: 1991	OK, so the man who suggsted the D on top knew what he was saying. It makes no sense on paper, at least not to someone who has not played pedal-steel before, but in real life it's very practical and ev ...
Topic: How about this tuning for an 8-string?
Terje Larson Replies: 11 Views: 1991	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 9 Aug 2007 3:48 am Subject: How about this tuning for an 8-string?
Terje Larson Replies: 11 Views: 1991	Now I've spoken to the guy who suggested the D on top and finally understood that the pitch of this D is lower than the high E and G-strings to enable fast runs. Interesting, perhaps, I'll try it out.
Topic: How about this tuning for an 8-string?
Terje Larson Replies: 11 Views: 1991	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 9 Aug 2007 12:22 am Subject: How about this tuning for an 8-string?
Terje Larson Replies: 11 Views: 1991	Low to high: C# E G A C E G B That covers a lot I think. I can play C, C6 (but that voicing will sound like Am, at least on it's own), Cmaj7, Am, Am7, Am9, A, A7, A9 and Em at the same fret. S ...
Topic: So, I'm getting an 8-string... starting a new life
Terje Larson Replies: 12 Views: 3368	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 5 Aug 2007 12:06 pm Subject: So, I'm getting an 8-string... starting a new life
Terje Larson Replies: 12 Views: 3368	So, regular C6 on the top 6 and then A and F below that. Gives you more bass if nothing else, huh? However, it's more often that I play a dominant 7th chord than a major 7th and the minor tria ...
Topic: So, I'm getting an 8-string... starting a new life
Terje Larson Replies: 12 Views: 3368	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 4 Aug 2007 6:37 am Subject: So, I'm getting an 8-string... starting a new life
Terje Larson Replies: 12 Views: 3368	Hm... Bb C E G A C E G, right? That's not bad either I suppose and you still ahve the regular C6 on the middle six strings. My only "complaint" would be that you end up with a C7 that has th ...
Topic: So, I'm getting an 8-string... starting a new life
Terje Larson Replies: 12 Views: 3368	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 3 Aug 2007 9:17 pm Subject: So, I'm getting an 8-string... starting a new life
Terje Larson Replies: 12 Views: 3368	I'll learn to slant better than I do and I realize it's a must but still... if I can make it easier for myself I will