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I gave the KL a fraction more and, Hey Presto, there it was: E to D-sharp and back on the 4th and 8th.

The only disquieting thing is that it was working just fine as it was for the last owner, Ju ...

Good New / Bad News

Good News: I found a vagrant .015 in my stash-o-strings. It was a Steel Mill string that Frenchy used to market.
It tuned up just fine to F#. I let it sit there overnight an ...

Don’t forget the closer you sit to the pickup the harder it will be get the hand squarish to the strings.

Yeah what do you mean by flags ?
They re a flat panel which has provides more surface area against the knee to give better access and less pressure on the knee.

My gut feeling is option A
Also I think looks better and balanced.
On further thought
Option B would not be very resistant to pressure on the body away from the axis and would want to twist and po ...

Waverly.
I had some Grovers where the plastic cracked and despite the lifetime warranty I was unable to even make contact with them let alone make a claim.

Interesting academic discussion but I don’t see much reference chromatic very often these days. In the years past maybe, but now go with the flow and just call it E9 and consign chromatic to a histo ...

If you don’t wish to remove the lever I think your only option is to incorporate a clamp style fixing on the flag.

Thats all good info. The other part of my question is why have pedal steel has made the spacing much tighter than typical lap steels. I would have thought what is good for a lap steel would be good fo ...

My 1975 shobud has string spacing at the bridge of 3/8” (.375” or 9.5mm). I would be interested to know why players prefer narrower spring spacing. Or is it more about not making 12 or 14 stringer ...

It’s a bit hard to tell but it looks like the groove jaws are Broken. That would mean a new finger or some grinding, drilling and adding pin for the hole of the string end to hook onto.

Not long ago I had a similar issue with my Emmons LG-II , turned out to be an ever so slight movement of a bellcrank on the cross shaft. Even watching the pull was very difficult to notice the sl ...

Not long ago I had a similar issue with my Emmons LG-II , turned out to be an ever so slight movement of a bellcrank on the cross shaft. Even watching the pull was very difficult to notice the sl ...

Possibly some movement at the pedal stop which you alluded to. Check the screw is solidly mounted with its lock nut and where screw bracket is fixed.

I don't know if this is the same "zing" you are talking about or not. I played an Emmons push/pull guitar for about 15 years and the 4th string had "issues" from the day I got it. ...

$105 compared to $250 is a no brainer. So what is the difference?
Also it would be nice to find something narrower for a s10/s12
Also the hard pelican style cases are actually quite heavy. If you ...

I think the best thing to do would be to try out different bar sizes to see what works best for you. If your hand is bigger, maybe a 7/8 or 15/16 bar, or an inch bar would help. There are all kinds of ...

You're correct John , I did forget the vertical, and the wrist lever
Plus the Uri Geller mind bender

If you 2 foot you can hit 4 pedals and 2 knee levers at the same time which gives you a lot of options
You forget the vertical Smile

Propik thumbick with steel band and Delrin tip. Last for ever. And very comfortable and being metal adjustable for thumb size. Not cheap but worth the price in my opinion. https://pro-pik.com/products ...

https://hummingbirdmusicstudio.com/pedal-steel-tuning.php
here you go.

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p.w
Hurtz a bad typo

I don’t know if this is common or not I made a volume pedal with an adjustable back stop so there is a default volume position for general playing and non pedal use. That way when you land back on t ...

My 1975 shobud had the tip of the tuner ground back in the factory. A little crudely I might add.

Regarding the suggestion of hammering the bend in the jig would it be better to redhot heat first and bend by hand. I would have thought a cold bend causes the steel to yield and weaken. Just a thoug ...

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Topic: New member, new build.
John Hyland Replies: 3 Views: 312	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 26 Jun 2024 12:42 pm Subject: New member, new build.
John Hyland Replies: 3 Views: 312	In the body of your message click upload image, in following window there is a small link at the bottom called gallery. Check the image isn’t lurking there.
Topic: Fix It
John Hyland Replies: 17 Views: 1295	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 24 Jun 2024 8:58 am Subject: Fix It
John Hyland Replies: 17 Views: 1295	I gave the KL a fraction more and, Hey Presto, there it was: E to D-sharp and back on the 4th and 8th. The only disquieting thing is that it was working just fine as it was for the last owner, Ju ...
Topic: 4th String Zing
John Hyland Replies: 67 Views: 26522	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 19 Jun 2024 12:37 pm Subject: 4th String Zing
John Hyland Replies: 67 Views: 26522	Good New / Bad News Good News: I found a vagrant .015 in my stash-o-strings. It was a Steel Mill string that Frenchy used to market. It tuned up just fine to F#. I let it sit there overnight an ...
Topic: Right hand position
John Hyland Replies: 31 Views: 11882	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 Jun 2024 1:53 pm Subject: Right hand position
John Hyland Replies: 31 Views: 11882	Don’t forget the closer you sit to the pickup the harder it will be get the hand squarish to the strings.
Topic: Installing knee lever Flags
John Hyland Replies: 7 Views: 656	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 9 Jun 2024 1:36 pm Subject: Re: Flags
John Hyland Replies: 7 Views: 656	Yeah what do you mean by flags ? They re a flat panel which has provides more surface area against the knee to give better access and less pressure on the knee.
Topic: Leg placement – console steel
John Hyland Replies: 2 Views: 308	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 30 May 2024 1:37 am Subject: Leg placement – console steel
John Hyland Replies: 2 Views: 308	My gut feeling is option A Also I think looks better and balanced. On further thought Option B would not be very resistant to pressure on the body away from the axis and would want to twist and po ...
Topic: New tuners for Dobro 60-D
John Hyland Replies: 3 Views: 578	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 29 May 2024 12:26 pm Subject: New tuners for Dobro 60-D
John Hyland Replies: 3 Views: 578	Waverly. I had some Grovers where the plastic cracked and despite the lifetime warranty I was unable to even make contact with them let alone make a claim.
Topic: Chromatics or Diatonics?
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 1226	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 28 May 2024 1:32 pm Subject: Chromatics or Diatonics?
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 1226	Interesting academic discussion but I don’t see much reference chromatic very often these days. In the years past maybe, but now go with the flow and just call it E9 and consign chromatic to a histo ...
Topic: Installing knee lever Flags
John Hyland Replies: 7 Views: 656	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 27 May 2024 1:27 am Subject: Installing knee lever Flags
John Hyland Replies: 7 Views: 656	If you don’t wish to remove the lever I think your only option is to incorporate a clamp style fixing on the flag.
Topic: String spacing
John Hyland Replies: 6 Views: 633	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 May 2024 1:28 pm Subject: String spacing
John Hyland Replies: 6 Views: 633	Thats all good info. The other part of my question is why have pedal steel has made the spacing much tighter than typical lap steels. I would have thought what is good for a lap steel would be good fo ...
Topic: String spacing
John Hyland Replies: 6 Views: 633	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 18 May 2024 2:01 pm Subject: String spacing
John Hyland Replies: 6 Views: 633	My 1975 shobud has string spacing at the bridge of 3/8” (.375” or 9.5mm). I would be interested to know why players prefer narrower spring spacing. Or is it more about not making 12 or 14 stringer ...
Topic: Sho Bud changer fingers
John Hyland Replies: 64 Views: 20860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 5 May 2024 1:32 pm Subject: Sho Bud changer fingers
John Hyland Replies: 64 Views: 20860	It’s a bit hard to tell but it looks like the groove jaws are Broken. That would mean a new finger or some grinding, drilling and adding pin for the hole of the string end to hook onto.
Topic: B Pedal - 6th String MSA XL Legend problem.
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 731	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 5 May 2024 1:03 pm Subject: B Pedal - 6th String MSA XL Legend problem.
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 731	Not long ago I had a similar issue with my Emmons LG-II , turned out to be an ever so slight movement of a bellcrank on the cross shaft. Even watching the pull was very difficult to notice the sl ...
Topic: B Pedal - 6th String MSA XL Legend problem.
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 731	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 3 May 2024 12:56 pm Subject: B Pedal - 6th String MSA XL Legend problem.
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 731	Not long ago I had a similar issue with my Emmons LG-II , turned out to be an ever so slight movement of a bellcrank on the cross shaft. Even watching the pull was very difficult to notice the sl ...
Topic: B Pedal - 6th String MSA XL Legend problem.
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 731	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 2 May 2024 11:38 pm Subject: B Pedal - 6th String MSA XL Legend problem.
John Hyland Replies: 9 Views: 731	Possibly some movement at the pedal stop which you alluded to. Check the screw is solidly mounted with its lock nut and where screw bracket is fixed.
Topic: 4th String Zing
John Hyland Replies: 67 Views: 26522	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 2 May 2024 6:09 pm Subject: 4th String Zing
John Hyland Replies: 67 Views: 26522	I don't know if this is the same "zing" you are talking about or not. I played an Emmons push/pull guitar for about 15 years and the 4th string had "issues" from the day I got it. ...
Topic: Gig Bags for Super Pro size D10?
John Hyland Replies: 12 Views: 851	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 2 May 2024 12:36 am Subject: Gig Bags for Super Pro size D10?
John Hyland Replies: 12 Views: 851	$105 compared to $250 is a no brainer. So what is the difference? Also it would be nice to find something narrower for a s10/s12 Also the hard pelican style cases are actually quite heavy. If you ...
Topic: “Correct” Bar Size
John Hyland Replies: 33 Views: 3031	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 1 May 2024 1:13 am Subject: “Correct” Bar Size
John Hyland Replies: 33 Views: 3031	I think the best thing to do would be to try out different bar sizes to see what works best for you. If your hand is bigger, maybe a 7/8 or 15/16 bar, or an inch bar would help. There are all kinds of ...
Topic: Two feet on pedals...
John Hyland Replies: 51 Views: 3750	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 29 Apr 2024 1:52 am Subject: Two feet on pedals...
John Hyland Replies: 51 Views: 3750	You're correct John , I did forget the vertical, and the wrist lever Plus the Uri Geller mind bender
Topic: Two feet on pedals...
John Hyland Replies: 51 Views: 3750	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 28 Apr 2024 2:57 pm Subject: Two feet on pedals...
John Hyland Replies: 51 Views: 3750	If you 2 foot you can hit 4 pedals and 2 knee levers at the same time which gives you a lot of options You forget the vertical
Topic: Alternates to blue Herco thumbpicks?
John Hyland Replies: 13 Views: 2015	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Apr 2024 8:19 pm Subject: Alternates to blue Herco thumbpicks?
John Hyland Replies: 13 Views: 2015	Propik thumbick with steel band and Delrin tip. Last for ever. And very comfortable and being metal adjustable for thumb size. Not cheap but worth the price in my opinion. https://pro-pik.com/products ...
Topic: Sho-Bud Pro II Tuning Advice
John Hyland Replies: 8 Views: 688	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Apr 2024 2:43 pm Subject: Sho-Bud Pro II Tuning Advice
John Hyland Replies: 8 Views: 688	https://hummingbirdmusicstudio.com/pedal-steel-tuning.php here you go. https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/3716_20220217_090150_2.jpg p.w Hurtz a bad typo
Topic: Two feet on pedals...
John Hyland Replies: 51 Views: 3750	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Apr 2024 2:36 pm Subject: Two feet on pedals...
John Hyland Replies: 51 Views: 3750	I don’t know if this is common or not I made a volume pedal with an adjustable back stop so there is a default volume position for general playing and non pedal use. That way when you land back on t ...
Topic: The Mystery Shim
John Hyland Replies: 29 Views: 3453	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 24 Apr 2024 2:31 pm Subject: The Mystery Shim
John Hyland Replies: 29 Views: 3453	My 1975 shobud had the tip of the tuner ground back in the factory. A little crudely I might add.
Topic: Pull Rod Overhaul
John Hyland Replies: 8 Views: 1712	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 18 Apr 2024 1:35 pm Subject: Pull Rod Overhaul
John Hyland Replies: 8 Views: 1712	Regarding the suggestion of hammering the bend in the jig would it be better to redhot heat first and bend by hand. I would have thought a cold bend causes the steel to yield and weaken. Just a thoug ...