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When I first read the title, I thought it said 3D Printed NECKS... LOL

I remember seeing some older steels with 3D necks, with raised logos and fret markers... Can't remember what brand it was, m ...

I use the boss CS-3. It's cheap enough, and good enough. Again, just my opinion.

A compressor places a limit on the amplitude of the signal, so even when you hit the strings hard, it still rings ...

I also have a Red Stripe Bandit, but I'm using the Silver Stripe as my practice amp for steel.

The names of things are slightly different on the Red Striple, but they're basically the same...

I ...

This topic seems to have taken off in two directions.

The OP seemed to be asking about PSG construction, NOT music. Follow up posters seemed to take it off into a direction discussing music itself ...

Or the 5 mm hex nut... Or is it 5/16ths? Wink

For many years, the Winnie Winston book has been a treasure trove of information regarding the evolution of the pedal steel guitar, complete with individual tuning and pedal set-ups of pioneers in the ...

What are standards today that will likely still be considered standards tomorrow?

Are there any standards today that you believe will not stand the test of time?

10 string E9 and 10 string C6 a ...

I didn't realize that Amazing Slow Downer was only $10 on Android! COOL!

I use Transcribe!, as they have a Linux version, and I still use MP3s... I'm old school like that! Wink

Especially if a previous owner oiled the bushings.
Makes sense.

Thanks again Lane! I haven't experienced any of those things lately, but when I first got it (20+ years ago) one of the ball joints gave way. I replaced all three and cleaned out the changer and it' ...

Thank you Lane for the wealth of information! We should have tips like that in a separate thread... Or in the book! Wink

I'm surprised there aren't more books on PSG history. With modern desktop p ...

Thanks Lane, much obliged!

Compared to my newer D10 MSA (85-ish?), the pedals and levers on my '73 S10 are noticeably stiffer.

When I was shopping for a D10, I also played a Rains, and the tensi ...

Hoping some of the more experienced folks here might be willing to explain the evolution of our instrument from the 50's to today.

Is there are timeline of PSG evolution published somewhere on the ...

Very nice guitar. Wish you were local! Wink

Now you're scaring people, Jay... Wink

LOL!

I love C6, there are so many beautiful chords just right there...

I'm still a beginner on steel, but I have a good understanding of diatonic harmony. ...

Thanks!

I just started on C6, so this is very timely.

It would be really helpful to know the full diatonic chords in C, both major and minor (do re mi, do re me, etc), in the 3 most common c ...

Tough crowd... David had a good idea to generate some conversation. Maybe even a dream to make pedal steel accessible to a wider audience. That's not a bad dream, IMHO.

This has been one of the ...

I haven't seen any Chinese guys trying to register for the forum, but I don't pay very close attention to that kind of stuff...

However, I have seen at least two Indian guys here asking questions ...

I think it's worth talking about.

The main difficulty with spreading the Pedal Steel Gospel are the barriers to entry. There are several barriers to entry, but cost is definitely one of them.
...

Michael Yahl and Jim Palenscar have them. BTW, if they are awful tight, they'll last longer
Thanks for that! I understand about the tight fit. What I didn't understand before is that most modern st ...

I have new nylon hex nuts of the original size at the shop.

Thank you Jim. I already ordered some from Bill Ferguson, but I might get some from you as well. Thanks for letting me know you've stil ...

Looks like I'm not the only one experiencing this! Wink

They are thicker than the rods on my rebuilt D10 SS. Alex Johnson of Charley's Guitars says the correct hex nut size is no longer available.

Looking for an alternative. The ones I bought from Ste ...

What is the diameter of the rods in a 73 MSA Classic? They seem fatter than more modern steels, and I'm having a hard time finding hex nuts that will fit.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. ...

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Topic: BMI Flight Ready
Jay Friedrich Replies: 18 Views: 5280	Forum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars Posted: 17 Nov 2017 11:01 pm Subject: BMI Flight Ready
Jay Friedrich Replies: 18 Views: 5280	Message sent.
Topic: 3D printed picks?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 18 Views: 5226	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 15 Aug 2017 12:04 pm Subject: 3D printed picks?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 18 Views: 5226	When I first read the title, I thought it said 3D Printed NECKS... LOL I remember seeing some older steels with 3D necks, with raised logos and fret markers... Can't remember what brand it was, m ...
Topic: Is a Peavey "Red Stripe" Bandit good enough
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 8653	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 14 Aug 2017 11:14 am Subject: Is a Peavey "Red Stripe" Bandit good enough
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 8653	I use the boss CS-3. It's cheap enough, and good enough. Again, just my opinion. A compressor places a limit on the amplitude of the signal, so even when you hit the strings hard, it still rings ...
Topic: Is a Peavey "Red Stripe" Bandit good enough
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 8653	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 14 Aug 2017 8:53 am Subject: Is a Peavey "Red Stripe" Bandit good enough
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 8653	I also have a Red Stripe Bandit, but I'm using the Silver Stripe as my practice amp for steel. The names of things are slightly different on the Red Striple, but they're basically the same... I ...
Topic: Standards
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 2980	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Aug 2017 4:59 pm Subject: Standards
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 2980	This topic seems to have taken off in two directions. The OP seemed to be asking about PSG construction, NOT music. Follow up posters seemed to take it off into a direction discussing music itself ...
Topic: Standards
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 2980	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Aug 2017 12:49 pm Subject: Standards
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 2980	Or the 5 mm hex nut... Or is it 5/16ths?
Topic: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Aug 2017 12:48 pm Subject: Re: Winnie Winston book
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	For many years, the Winnie Winston book has been a treasure trove of information regarding the evolution of the pedal steel guitar, complete with individual tuning and pedal set-ups of pioneers in the ...
Topic: Standards
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 2980	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Aug 2017 10:30 am Subject: Standards
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 2980	What are standards today that will likely still be considered standards tomorrow? Are there any standards today that you believe will not stand the test of time? 10 string E9 and 10 string C6 a ...
Topic: Best App/Software for Transcribing
Jay Friedrich Replies: 7 Views: 2691	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Aug 2017 9:16 pm Subject: Best App/Software for Transcribing
Jay Friedrich Replies: 7 Views: 2691	I didn't realize that Amazing Slow Downer was only $10 on Android! COOL! I use Transcribe!, as they have a Linux version, and I still use MP3s... I'm old school like that!
Topic: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Aug 2017 9:09 pm Subject: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Especially if a previous owner oiled the bushings. Makes sense.
Topic: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Aug 2017 9:06 pm Subject: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Thanks again Lane! I haven't experienced any of those things lately, but when I first got it (20+ years ago) one of the ball joints gave way. I replaced all three and cleaned out the changer and it' ...
Topic: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Aug 2017 7:35 pm Subject: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Thank you Lane for the wealth of information! We should have tips like that in a separate thread... Or in the book! I'm surprised there aren't more books on PSG history. With modern desktop p ...
Topic: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Aug 2017 9:27 am Subject: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Thanks Lane, much obliged! Compared to my newer D10 MSA (85-ish?), the pedals and levers on my '73 S10 are noticeably stiffer. When I was shopping for a D10, I also played a Rains, and the tensi ...
Topic: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 11 Aug 2017 10:07 pm Subject: Old Vs. New PSG - Options, Timeframes, and Variables?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 16 Views: 4860	Hoping some of the more experienced folks here might be willing to explain the evolution of our instrument from the 50's to today. Is there are timeline of PSG evolution published somewhere on the ...
Topic: gone
Jay Friedrich Replies: 24 Views: 14454	Forum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars Posted: 10 Aug 2017 7:27 pm Subject: gone
Jay Friedrich Replies: 24 Views: 14454	Very nice guitar. Wish you were local!
Topic: REVISED C6 Instruction Video: Playing 2-5-1 patterns in jazz
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 6022	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 10 Aug 2017 6:30 pm Subject: REVISED C6 Instruction Video: Playing 2-5-1 patterns in jazz
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 6022	Now you're scaring people, Jay... LOL! I love C6, there are so many beautiful chords just right there... I'm still a beginner on steel, but I have a good understanding of diatonic harmony. ...
Topic: REVISED C6 Instruction Video: Playing 2-5-1 patterns in jazz
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 6022	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 10 Aug 2017 5:55 pm Subject: REVISED C6 Instruction Video: Playing 2-5-1 patterns in jazz
Jay Friedrich Replies: 21 Views: 6022	Thanks! I just started on C6, so this is very timely. It would be really helpful to know the full diatonic chords in C, both major and minor (do re mi, do re me, etc), in the 3 most common c ...
Topic: If I Wanted To Get Rich Building Pedal Steel Guitars
Jay Friedrich Replies: 124 Views: 28017	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 Aug 2017 1:58 pm Subject: If I Wanted To Get Rich Building Pedal Steel Guitars
Jay Friedrich Replies: 124 Views: 28017	Tough crowd... David had a good idea to generate some conversation. Maybe even a dream to make pedal steel accessible to a wider audience. That's not a bad dream, IMHO. This has been one of the ...
Topic: If I Wanted To Get Rich Building Pedal Steel Guitars
Jay Friedrich Replies: 124 Views: 28017	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 8 Aug 2017 2:53 pm Subject: If I Wanted To Get Rich Building Pedal Steel Guitars
Jay Friedrich Replies: 124 Views: 28017	I haven't seen any Chinese guys trying to register for the forum, but I don't pay very close attention to that kind of stuff... However, I have seen at least two Indian guys here asking questions ...
Topic: If I Wanted To Get Rich Building Pedal Steel Guitars
Jay Friedrich Replies: 124 Views: 28017	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 7 Aug 2017 3:08 pm Subject: If I Wanted To Get Rich Building Pedal Steel Guitars
Jay Friedrich Replies: 124 Views: 28017	I think it's worth talking about. The main difficulty with spreading the Pedal Steel Gospel are the barriers to entry. There are several barriers to entry, but cost is definitely one of them. ...
Topic: Nylon Tuning Nuts for 1/8" Pull Rods
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 3621	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 7 Aug 2017 2:42 pm Subject: Nylon Tuning Nuts for 1/8" Pull Rods
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 3621	Michael Yahl and Jim Palenscar have them. BTW, if they are awful tight, they'll last longer Thanks for that! I understand about the tight fit. What I didn't understand before is that most modern st ...
Topic: Hex Nuts for Older MSA?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 6 Views: 1694	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 7 Aug 2017 1:57 pm Subject: Hex Nuts for Older MSA?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 6 Views: 1694	I have new nylon hex nuts of the original size at the shop. Thank you Jim. I already ordered some from Bill Ferguson, but I might get some from you as well. Thanks for letting me know you've stil ...
Topic: Nylon Tuning Nuts for 1/8" Pull Rods
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 3621	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 7 Aug 2017 11:31 am Subject: Nylon Tuning Nuts for 1/8" Pull Rods
Jay Friedrich Replies: 10 Views: 3621	Looks like I'm not the only one experiencing this!
Topic: Hex Nuts for Older MSA?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 6 Views: 1694	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 7 Aug 2017 11:25 am Subject: Hex Nuts for Older MSA?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 6 Views: 1694	They are thicker than the rods on my rebuilt D10 SS. Alex Johnson of Charley's Guitars says the correct hex nut size is no longer available. Looking for an alternative. The ones I bought from Ste ...
Topic: Hex Nuts for Older MSA?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 6 Views: 1694	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 6 Aug 2017 10:34 pm Subject: Hex Nuts for Older MSA?
Jay Friedrich Replies: 6 Views: 1694	What is the diameter of the rods in a 73 MSA Classic? They seem fatter than more modern steels, and I'm having a hard time finding hex nuts that will fit. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ...