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Don, when you sit at the steel, which fret does the centre of your body line up with? 12 is obvious, but 15 can help. Your left foot doesn't have to be at right angles to the pedal bar.
As the instru ...

That is superb on every level!

I have my E raises and lowers on opposite knees, so to get that change I move up a fret, release A and F, and lower the E string instead, which of course is a common minor chord now functioning as a s ...

Their designs change frequently.
I would send pictures, as your descriptions may not be instantly recognisable to them.

At that price, it counts as disposable. If the pot fails, junk it and buy another pedal.

But I already have a Hillton Smile

My father was a government scientist. He blamed all malfunctions on the Law of the General Cussedness of Things

Be sure to let us know if you do decide to have a go at rocket surgery Smile

Not strictly related, but I had an overheating problem caused by the grease which transmits heat from the CPU to its heats ...

I agree with Ron. That's the course that got me started.

I started on a D10 resting my arms on the back neck to play the E9, because otherwise the strain on my back was too much.
On the S12 there's no need, as it's more "immediate" (as Jon says) ...

You can't go wrong with Buddy Emmons as a starting point. Some players move P8 to the left of P5, and P4 seems to have gone out of fashion somewhat, but his basic setup still makes perfect sense.
Mak ...

I don't use the C pedal much. It was important in the pull-release era as the means of lowering 3 and 6, but since the advent of multiple changes it's a bit redundant. Still useful if you want to rais ...

I should have declared that I play Day.
Bobby explains it very well, as usual.

The important thing is that adjacent pedals bottom out together. This may mean that the resting heights vary and look untidy.

I used to own a no-name copy of a Permanent D10 that had extra cranks welded to the crossbars.
They were a bit of a puzzle but I figured they were for some alternative copedant

Any C6 course material such as Buddy Emmons' Basic C6.
You soon get used to playing everything a fret higher.
I use B6 a lot on songs which are neither jazz nnòr swing.
Enjoy!

My vertical lowers 5 but also raises 9 a half step.
This is to avoid having to use P8 just to raise one string. It has drawbacks but I also have P6 on a lever, so I totally avoid double-footing Smile

Between ages 40-60 I taught various instruments such as trumpet and clarinet where the fingers are used very intensively. I would insist on both wrists being straight. When the students thought I was ...

Absolutely, Len. Do what the heck you want - I know I do Smile

My mileage varies. After I'd been on my homemade uni for a while I got my old D10 out to check it over before passing it on, and I could barely play it!
In particular the E9 neck was a mile away* and ...

I decided to treat myself to one, and it is superb.
It has a host of facilities I shall never use, so I would have to say the Hilton is better value for money.
The Telonics stays at home with my Wil ...

I've been thinking of getting a hat like Buddy Emmons used to wear, but they're quite expensive so I'll settle for being mediocre.

Strange that it should be your index finger, which does less than the thumb and middle (which actually hold the bar). Maybe you are using more pressure than necessary, or the heel of the bar is diggin ...

The singer and the guitar player in our band are interested in what I do. No-one else I can think of. Certainly not audiences. It's a good job I find it fascinating or I'd give it up.

I use a switched power strip. Helps me sleep.

I started on a D10 and loved the C6 side.

I soon swapped to a uni to save weight.

If you find a D10 you like, tune the C6 down to B6 (no need to change string gauges) in preparation for a possib ...

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Topic: HELP! Please don't laugh
Ian Rae Replies: 28 Views: 2095	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 3 Nov 2024 2:38 am Subject: HELP! Please don't laugh
Ian Rae Replies: 28 Views: 2095	Don, when you sit at the steel, which fret does the centre of your body line up with? 12 is obvious, but 15 can help. Your left foot doesn't have to be at right angles to the pedal bar. As the instru ...
Topic: Emmons in Japan w/Jazz Band
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1018	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 1 Nov 2024 3:59 pm Subject: Emmons in Japan w/Jazz Band
Ian Rae Replies: 15 Views: 1018	That is superb on every level!
Topic: Does anyone raise middle G# to A#?
Ian Rae Replies: 25 Views: 4719	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 26 Oct 2024 12:46 am Subject: Does anyone raise middle G# to A#?
Ian Rae Replies: 25 Views: 4719	I have my E raises and lowers on opposite knees, so to get that change I move up a fret, release A and F, and lower the E string instead, which of course is a common minor chord now functioning as a s ...
Topic: Excel PSG Parts Needed
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 443	Forum Section: Wanted To Buy Posted: 14 Oct 2024 1:07 am Subject: Excel PSG Parts Needed
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 443	Their designs change frequently. I would send pictures, as your descriptions may not be instantly recognisable to them.
Topic: Anybody try this cheap and compact volume pedal?
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 1355	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 11 Oct 2024 11:41 pm Subject: Anybody try this cheap and compact volume pedal?
Ian Rae Replies: 11 Views: 1355	At that price, it counts as disposable. If the pot fails, junk it and buy another pedal. But I already have a Hillton
Topic: Laptop Fan Dying
Ian Rae Replies: 12 Views: 1701	Forum Section: Computers Posted: 4 Oct 2024 3:47 pm Subject: Laptop Fan Dying
Ian Rae Replies: 12 Views: 1701	My father was a government scientist. He blamed all malfunctions on the Law of the General Cussedness of Things
Topic: Laptop Fan Dying
Ian Rae Replies: 12 Views: 1701	Forum Section: Computers Posted: 2 Oct 2024 12:42 pm Subject: Laptop Fan Dying
Ian Rae Replies: 12 Views: 1701	Be sure to let us know if you do decide to have a go at rocket surgery Not strictly related, but I had an overheating problem caused by the grease which transmits heat from the CPU to its heats ...
Topic: C6 Copedant Explained... is there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 7 Views: 913	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Sep 2024 12:37 am Subject: C6 Copedant Explained... is there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 7 Views: 913	I agree with Ron. That's the course that got me started.
Topic: Pad or no Pad?
Ian Rae Replies: 18 Views: 1790	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Sep 2024 12:34 am Subject: Pad or no Pad?
Ian Rae Replies: 18 Views: 1790	I started on a D10 resting my arms on the back neck to play the E9, because otherwise the strain on my back was too much. On the S12 there's no need, as it's more "immediate" (as Jon says) ...
Topic: C6 Copedant Explained... is there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 7 Views: 913	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 29 Sep 2024 1:11 am Subject: C6 Copedant Explained... is there a standard?
Ian Rae Replies: 7 Views: 913	You can't go wrong with Buddy Emmons as a starting point. Some players move P8 to the left of P5, and P4 seems to have gone out of fashion somewhat, but his basic setup still makes perfect sense. Mak ...
Topic: Pedal Height?
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1323	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 15 Sep 2024 3:41 pm Subject: Pedal Height?
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1323	I don't use the C pedal much. It was important in the pull-release era as the means of lowering 3 and 6, but since the advent of multiple changes it's a bit redundant. Still useful if you want to rais ...
Topic: Pedal Height?
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1323	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 15 Sep 2024 12:19 am Subject: Pedal Height?
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1323	I should have declared that I play Day. Bobby explains it very well, as usual.
Topic: Pedal Height?
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1323	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Sep 2024 3:36 pm Subject: Pedal Height?
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1323	The important thing is that adjacent pedals bottom out together. This may mean that the resting heights vary and look untidy.
Topic: Bit of Emmons trivia for those who like that sort of thing.
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 964	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Sep 2024 3:31 pm Subject: Bit of Emmons trivia for those who like that sort of thing.
Ian Rae Replies: 4 Views: 964	I used to own a no-name copy of a Permanent D10 that had extra cranks welded to the crossbars. They were a bit of a puzzle but I figured they were for some alternative copedant
Topic: Learning the B6 part on a U12
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1218	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Sep 2024 9:49 pm Subject: Learning the B6 part on a U12
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1218	Any C6 course material such as Buddy Emmons' Basic C6. You soon get used to playing everything a fret higher. I use B6 a lot on songs which are neither jazz nnòr swing. Enjoy!
Topic: Verticle knee question on MSA U12
Ian Rae Replies: 3 Views: 809	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 11 Sep 2024 3:48 pm Subject: Verticle knee question on MSA U12
Ian Rae Replies: 3 Views: 809	My vertical lowers 5 but also raises 9 a half step. This is to avoid having to use P8 just to raise one string. It has drawbacks but I also have P6 on a lever, so I totally avoid double-footing
Topic: finger numbness
Ian Rae Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 11 Sep 2024 12:11 am Subject: finger numbness
Ian Rae Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Between ages 40-60 I taught various instruments such as trumpet and clarinet where the fingers are used very intensively. I would insist on both wrists being straight. When the students thought I was ...
Topic: Can you play a U-12 then go to a D-10. I’m about to find out
Ian Rae Replies: 19 Views: 1754	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 Sep 2024 8:10 am Subject: Can you play a U-12 then go to a D-10. I’m about to find out
Ian Rae Replies: 19 Views: 1754	Absolutely, Len. Do what the heck you want - I know I do
Topic: Can you play a U-12 then go to a D-10. I’m about to find out
Ian Rae Replies: 19 Views: 1754	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 9 Sep 2024 12:55 am Subject: Can you play a U-12 then go to a D-10. I’m about to find out
Ian Rae Replies: 19 Views: 1754	My mileage varies. After I'd been on my homemade uni for a while I got my old D10 out to check it over before passing it on, and I could barely play it! In particular the E9 neck was a mile away* and ...
Topic: Telonics Volume Pedal
Ian Rae Replies: 3 Views: 977	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 9 Sep 2024 12:49 am Subject: Telonics Volume Pedal
Ian Rae Replies: 3 Views: 977	I decided to treat myself to one, and it is superb. It has a host of facilities I shall never use, so I would have to say the Hilton is better value for money. The Telonics stays at home with my Wil ...
Topic: How does he do this
Ian Rae Replies: 14 Views: 4493	Forum Section: Steel on the Web Posted: 8 Sep 2024 11:22 am Subject: How does he do this
Ian Rae Replies: 14 Views: 4493	I've been thinking of getting a hat like Buddy Emmons used to wear, but they're quite expensive so I'll settle for being mediocre.
Topic: finger numbness
Ian Rae Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 8 Sep 2024 12:14 am Subject: finger numbness
Ian Rae Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Strange that it should be your index finger, which does less than the thumb and middle (which actually hold the bar). Maybe you are using more pressure than necessary, or the heel of the bar is diggin ...
Topic: Who are we playing for?
Ian Rae Replies: 49 Views: 5770	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 29 Aug 2024 1:55 pm Subject: Who are we playing for?
Ian Rae Replies: 49 Views: 5770	The singer and the guitar player in our band are interested in what I do. No-one else I can think of. Certainly not audiences. It's a good job I find it fascinating or I'd give it up.
Topic: Can you leave Hilton V P plugged up
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1494	Forum Section: Electronics Posted: 27 Aug 2024 11:20 pm Subject: Can you leave Hilton V P plugged up
Ian Rae Replies: 10 Views: 1494	I use a switched power strip. Helps me sleep.
Topic: Novice question : S10 vs D10 vs Universal
Ian Rae Replies: 27 Views: 3616	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 25 Aug 2024 8:35 am Subject: Novice question : S10 vs D10 vs Universal
Ian Rae Replies: 27 Views: 3616	I started on a D10 and loved the C6 side. I soon swapped to a uni to save weight. If you find a D10 you like, tune the C6 down to B6 (no need to change string gauges) in preparation for a possib ...