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I just noticed this thread. I made a different one showing how I made these with a miter saw.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=389091

Thank you, Tom! I took a picture of Paul's changer end at a show a few years ago. Referencing that picture and his copedent, I was sure there had to be some tuning comps on the C6.

Thanks for all the responses. I've researched this some more, and found some pictures of Franklins with these on all pedals and some without any.

Should I put these on all 9 pedals? It's easy to ...

Thanks Jack, I'll take your word for it. I had this guitar signed by Paul Sr. a few years ago and I think he mentioned they weren't stock but couldn't remember for sure. I think I'll remove them.

Here’s a picture to clarify. Only the A, B, & C pedals have a tiny hole drilled for the hook end. The inconsistency makes me wonder if these were added later.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.co ...

My Franklin D10 has MSA-style pedal return springs on A, B, and C. The rest don't have them. Is this stock?

I like to place tooth picks under the fretboard along the length of the neck with the ends poking out so I can remove them. Then I get the changer end lined up perfectly and remove the toothpicks as ...

I made a jig for my miter saw to clamp the plate down, and I used blades specifically intended for cutting aluminum. The advertised kerfs for the blades were undersized for what I needed (0.0610" ...

I took a class for 3D modeling as part of my engineering degree. I majored in civil, so the only thing I’ve used that class for is designing steel guitar parts.

Cost is an issue with getting p ...

That's what I needed - thanks!

There's a wealth of information on common tuning compensators for E9th, but I couldn't find much for C6th in the forum search.

Can anyone share Paul's tuning compensators for C6th?

Wow, 3/16". Thanks Wayne.

Thanks, Wayne!

Thanks, David. That's interesting that earlier Emmons had a 1/16" wall. I found a photo of a late model changer here on the forum and it seems they went to 1/8" at some point.

I suspect ...

I'd like to gather information to help me predict how the wall thickness of the changer finger is related to tone and sustain.

Here's the dimension I'm curious about:

https://bb.steelguitarforum ...

I was comparing young's modulus between steels, which theoretically varies a few GPa (and is in essence the measurement of stiffness). But I'm in the dark for how meaningful that difference is without ...

I tried making colored tuning nuts with rit dyes a few years ago. I spent a lot of time with it, but the dye liked to be absorbed into the edges and ends of the tuning nuts - not the faces. I'm still ...

The axle brace is an cool and interesting idea. I wonder how much detuning can be resolved by choosing a stiffer steel alloy (one with a higher modulus of elasticity).

I'm not sure what kind of st ...

This is an interesting topic.

I've noticed that many steel players value aesthetics and mechanical features over originality (or even tone). The difference between vintage steel guitars and other ...

What tonal differences are there between A356 and others, like 713?

I've had good success using a mini WEN drill press and a jig I made with two small steel plates (2 in x 2 in) sandwiched together with some spacers in between. It has an exact fit on four sides for a ...

I'll take it, Jim.

I'll reinforce what others have said. String changes are not permanent (possible exception being the carter starter), but they're also not something you'll want to change daily. A lot of tuning change ...

Craig,

Do you mean the necks or the top part of a D10 body? I'm referring to the latter.

I always assumed that a D10 body is four pieces, with a glue joint between the two necks. But yesterday I watched a video of a prominent builder who mentioned the body being only three pieces.

Doe ...

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Topic: Franklin Bellcranks
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 4066	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 26 Feb 2023 10:24 am Subject: Franklin Bellcranks
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 4066	I just noticed this thread. I made a different one showing how I made these with a miter saw. https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=389091
Topic: What tuning compensators does Paul Franklin use on C6th?
Dave Stroud Replies: 6 Views: 1775	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 26 Feb 2023 10:08 am Subject: What tuning compensators does Paul Franklin use on C6th?
Dave Stroud Replies: 6 Views: 1775	Thank you, Tom! I took a picture of Paul's changer end at a show a few years ago. Referencing that picture and his copedent, I was sure there had to be some tuning comps on the C6.
Topic: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 26 Feb 2023 9:41 am Subject: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Thanks for all the responses. I've researched this some more, and found some pictures of Franklins with these on all pedals and some without any. Should I put these on all 9 pedals? It's easy to ...
Topic: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 24 Feb 2023 11:23 am Subject: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Thanks Jack, I'll take your word for it. I had this guitar signed by Paul Sr. a few years ago and I think he mentioned they weren't stock but couldn't remember for sure. I think I'll remove them.
Topic: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 24 Feb 2023 7:25 am Subject: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Here’s a picture to clarify. Only the A, B, & C pedals have a tiny hole drilled for the hook end. The inconsistency makes me wonder if these were added later. https://bb.steelguitarforum.co ...
Topic: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 23 Feb 2023 6:50 pm Subject: Do Franklins have pedal return springs?
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1876	My Franklin D10 has MSA-style pedal return springs on A, B, and C. The rest don't have them. Is this stock?
Topic: Delete
Dave Stroud Replies: 5 Views: 1463	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 22 Feb 2023 6:27 pm Subject: Delete
Dave Stroud Replies: 5 Views: 1463	I like to place tooth picks under the fretboard along the length of the neck with the ends poking out so I can remove them. Then I get the changer end lined up perfectly and remove the toothpicks as ...
Topic: Franklin-style bell cranks without milling machine
Dave Stroud Replies: 1 Views: 1889	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 21 Feb 2023 4:34 pm Subject: Franklin-style bell cranks without milling machine
Dave Stroud Replies: 1 Views: 1889	I made a jig for my miter saw to clamp the plate down, and I used blades specifically intended for cutting aluminum. The advertised kerfs for the blades were undersized for what I needed (0.0610" ...
Topic: CNC parts
Dave Stroud Replies: 24 Views: 10463	Forum Section: Builders' Corner Posted: 21 Feb 2023 7:45 am Subject: CNC parts
Dave Stroud Replies: 24 Views: 10463	I took a class for 3D modeling as part of my engineering degree. I majored in civil, so the only thing I’ve used that class for is designing steel guitar parts. Cost is an issue with getting p ...
Topic: What tuning compensators does Paul Franklin use on C6th?
Dave Stroud Replies: 6 Views: 1775	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 11 Feb 2023 12:55 pm Subject: What tuning compensators does Paul Franklin use on C6th?
Dave Stroud Replies: 6 Views: 1775	That's what I needed - thanks!
Topic: What tuning compensators does Paul Franklin use on C6th?
Dave Stroud Replies: 6 Views: 1775	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 11 Feb 2023 11:38 am Subject: What tuning compensators does Paul Franklin use on C6th?
Dave Stroud Replies: 6 Views: 1775	There's a wealth of information on common tuning compensators for E9th, but I couldn't find much for C6th in the forum search. Can anyone share Paul's tuning compensators for C6th?
Topic: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 16 Jan 2023 6:11 pm Subject: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Wow, 3/16". Thanks Wayne.
Topic: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Jan 2023 10:54 am Subject: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Thanks, Wayne!
Topic: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Jan 2023 7:08 pm Subject: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Thanks, David. That's interesting that earlier Emmons had a 1/16" wall. I found a photo of a late model changer here on the forum and it seems they went to 1/8" at some point. I suspect ...
Topic: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Jan 2023 4:18 pm Subject: Effect of Wall Thickness on Changer Fingers
Dave Stroud Replies: 7 Views: 1812	I'd like to gather information to help me predict how the wall thickness of the changer finger is related to tone and sustain. Here's the dimension I'm curious about: https://bb.steelguitarforum ...
Topic: What was the Remington Stabilizer?
Dave Stroud Replies: 14 Views: 3704	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 Mar 2021 2:47 pm Subject: What was the Remington Stabilizer?
Dave Stroud Replies: 14 Views: 3704	I was comparing young's modulus between steels, which theoretically varies a few GPa (and is in essence the measurement of stiffness). But I'm in the dark for how meaningful that difference is without ...
Topic: Colored Nylon Tuners
Dave Stroud Replies: 38 Views: 8636	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 Mar 2021 1:45 pm Subject: Colored Nylon Tuners
Dave Stroud Replies: 38 Views: 8636	I tried making colored tuning nuts with rit dyes a few years ago. I spent a lot of time with it, but the dye liked to be absorbed into the edges and ends of the tuning nuts - not the faces. I'm still ...
Topic: What was the Remington Stabilizer?
Dave Stroud Replies: 14 Views: 3704	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 Mar 2021 1:09 pm Subject: What was the Remington Stabilizer?
Dave Stroud Replies: 14 Views: 3704	The axle brace is an cool and interesting idea. I wonder how much detuning can be resolved by choosing a stiffer steel alloy (one with a higher modulus of elasticity). I'm not sure what kind of st ...
Topic: Vintage Pedal Steels - Original or Not?
Dave Stroud Replies: 22 Views: 7170	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 20 Mar 2021 6:51 am Subject: Vintage Pedal Steels - Original or Not?
Dave Stroud Replies: 22 Views: 7170	This is an interesting topic. I've noticed that many steel players value aesthetics and mechanical features over originality (or even tone). The difference between vintage steel guitars and other ...
Topic: Tonal differences between cast alloys
Dave Stroud Replies: 0 Views: 797	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 19 Mar 2021 7:36 pm Subject: Tonal differences between cast alloys
Dave Stroud Replies: 0 Views: 797	What tonal differences are there between A356 and others, like 713?
Topic: Thinking of making my own tuning nuts.
Dave Stroud Replies: 33 Views: 6242	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Feb 2021 6:34 pm Subject: Thinking of making my own tuning nuts.
Dave Stroud Replies: 33 Views: 6242	I've had good success using a mini WEN drill press and a jig I made with two small steel plates (2 in x 2 in) sandwiched together with some spacers in between. It has an exact fit on four sides for a ...
Topic: Sold Close Her Up
Dave Stroud Replies: 3 Views: 1048	Forum Section: For Sale: Amps and Accessories Posted: 12 Feb 2021 1:06 pm Subject: Sold Close Her Up
Dave Stroud Replies: 3 Views: 1048	I'll take it, Jim.
Topic: Question about buying my first pedal steel
Dave Stroud Replies: 22 Views: 4837	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 11 Feb 2021 8:27 am Subject: Question about buying my first pedal steel
Dave Stroud Replies: 22 Views: 4837	I'll reinforce what others have said. String changes are not permanent (possible exception being the carter starter), but they're also not something you'll want to change daily. A lot of tuning change ...
Topic: Are D10 tops made of a single piece?
Dave Stroud Replies: 5 Views: 2046	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 23 Oct 2020 8:22 pm Subject: Are D10 tops made of a single piece?
Dave Stroud Replies: 5 Views: 2046	Craig, Do you mean the necks or the top part of a D10 body? I'm referring to the latter.
Topic: Are D10 tops made of a single piece?
Dave Stroud Replies: 5 Views: 2046	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 23 Oct 2020 4:31 pm Subject: Are D10 tops made of a single piece?
Dave Stroud Replies: 5 Views: 2046	I always assumed that a D10 body is four pieces, with a glue joint between the two necks. But yesterday I watched a video of a prominent builder who mentioned the body being only three pieces. Doe ...