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I am a novice, and I have fun with this open G tuning. No weird grips to bother with.
I am planning on swapping the V and K pulls so I don't need both feet when raising note 1 to 2 while pushing A &a ...

Numeric copedent:

| 0 | A | B | C |
-----------------
| 7 | 1#| | |
| 3 | | 4 | |
| 1 | | | 2 |
| 5 | 6 | | |
| 3 | | 4 | |
| 1 | | | 2 |

...

Thank you very much. This is excellent information.

I am a newbie with a homemade PS which uses one-piece fingers.

The nut on the lowering rod holds the open tuned finger in position.

The lowering pedal moves the nut and the finger toward a tun ...

Amateur newbie here.

What I do is take a roll of wall-plastering paper tape and cut off a piece to fit the neck. Then I mark where the actual frets are with pencil by placing it on the neck.

Next I ...

Does anyone know of a 6 to 8 string resonator guitar conversion kit that is available, or a site that shows how to do a home brew job?

C#7 = C# F G# B
C#9 = C# D# F G# B
F7b5 = F A B D#
Fm7b5 = F G# B D#[This message was edited by Dave Marshall on 29 April 2006 at 09:25 PM.]

I was mistaken in believing tension was the main cause of loss of string tonality. Therefore my equation for string life, as Jim Sliff says, "makes no sense".

Here's a clip from a Spanish style guita ...

I am a newbie, and I have made myself a mini chart of chord locations for E9 tuning. It may be

helpful to other newbies. The chart is based on the minimum copedent shown below. Knee G is very

helpf ...

Thanks for catching my error, John. Bummer! It looks like I got the F in the wrong column first time around, then I did an edit to move it right to G#. Luckily it did not affect the reasoning in tryin ...

PF says:
quote:They can't take the constant stretching from the pedals over a long period, and still keep their sustain and tuning.
(snip)
In the studio I change every 3 to 7 days. Guitarists chan ...

I thought the main reason people changed strings every few weeks was because the "brightness" (and I don't mean the shine)disappeared after being stretched for 24 hrs a day for that long.

More newbie thinking:

I have just been analysing C6 copedents since I am in the process of building another PSG.

Some guys put a D on top and some put a G on top, and keep swapping them as the mood ...

Thanks for the viewpoint, gentlemen. I was concerned with string brightness rather than breakage.

I am a newbie with minimum PS skills, and strange ideas, so I'd like to run something by you pros.

To make strings last longer, what do you think of the idea of a precision "Slacker Latch" that would ...

In a post of mine on string-9 dissonance in the "Steel Players" section (resonating with 8 and 10) Bobby Lee said:
You don't happen to tune your 9th string to C#, do you? (Some people do.)

Thanks Bo ...

Thanks for the explanation, John. I guess 12 stringers are even punkier.

Mapquest says I am
quote:Total Est. Time: 7 hours, 42 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 334.34 milesfrom you, so I doubt we ...

Bryan Bradfield says:

On dobro, I use a bar with quite a sharp cut-out. I do all of my single string work with a tipped bar, contacting only one string at a time.

Newbie solution, and probably a bad ...

Charles Fager says:
The middle finger string lines up with the indented crease between the end of my pinky and my palm, and because of this, I am having great difficulty blocking ringing for that mid ...

John Steele says:
I have to say though, the very first thing that crossed my mind when I played it was "I wouldn't play that there...".

Why not, John, if you did not have the discord? I don't have ...

Thanks guys for all the sound advice.

No, Bobby, the 9th string is D.

If the tune is played at fret 3 instead of 8 the effect is more noticeable.

To me a 7, a 7b and a 5 don't make a nice sound. I ...

Thanks, Ray.
By the way, the rollers are battery post knobs.

I wound the pickup myself ... about 5000 turns of wire. You will see tape on the end where the cover started to lift. It is hummy since it is a single coil. May replace that when I can play better.

T ...

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OK ... I had to sign up for a photo dump place.

Here are the pix. The dangling thing is the cord on the camera. I also edited out shots of my wooly sox in a couple of them. I used rubber bands to hol ...

Author	Message
Topic: The Rise of the 8 string and Fall of the 10 string PSG!
Dave Marshall Replies: 177 Views: 41579	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Nov 2012 2:45 pm Subject: The Rise of the 8 string and Fall of the 10 string PSG!
Dave Marshall Replies: 177 Views: 41579	I am a novice, and I have fun with this open G tuning. No weird grips to bother with. I am planning on swapping the V and K pulls so I don't need both feet when raising note 1 to 2 while pushing A &a ...
Topic: Which 6 to pick?
Dave Marshall Replies: 6 Views: 3413	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 27 Nov 2012 8:04 am Subject: Which 6 to pick?
Dave Marshall Replies: 6 Views: 3413	Numeric copedent: \| 0 \| A \| B \| C \| ----------------- \| 7 \| 1#\| \| \| \| 3 \| \| 4 \| \| \| 1 \| \| \| 2 \| \| 5 \| 6 \| \| \| \| 3 \| \| 4 \| \| \| 1 \| \| \| 2 \| ...
Topic: Half-stop design required
Dave Marshall Replies: 6 Views: 1887	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 20 Nov 2008 10:04 am Subject: Half-stop design required
Dave Marshall Replies: 6 Views: 1887	Thank you very much. This is excellent information.
Topic: Half-stop design required
Dave Marshall Replies: 6 Views: 1887	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 19 Nov 2008 6:26 pm Subject: Half-stop design required
Dave Marshall Replies: 6 Views: 1887	I am a newbie with a homemade PS which uses one-piece fingers. The nut on the lowering rod holds the open tuned finger in position. The lowering pedal moves the nut and the finger toward a tun ...
Topic: Harmonized Scales
Dave Marshall Replies: 10 Views: 1414	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 27 Jul 2006 9:39 am Subject: Harmonized Scales
Dave Marshall Replies: 10 Views: 1414	Amateur newbie here. What I do is take a roll of wall-plastering paper tape and cut off a piece to fit the neck. Then I mark where the actual frets are with pencil by placing it on the neck. Next I ...
Topic: conversion kit required
Dave Marshall Replies: 1 Views: 505	Forum Section: Steel Without Pedals Posted: 27 Jul 2006 6:08 am Subject: conversion kit required
Dave Marshall Replies: 1 Views: 505	Does anyone know of a 6 to 8 string resonator guitar conversion kit that is available, or a site that shows how to do a home brew job?
Topic: Key of E - What is this chord spelling
Dave Marshall Replies: 5 Views: 1173	Forum Section: Tablature Posted: 29 Apr 2006 8:06 pm Subject: Key of E - What is this chord spelling
Dave Marshall Replies: 5 Views: 1173	C#7 = C# F G# B C#9 = C# D# F G# B F7b5 = F A B D# Fm7b5 = F G# B D#[This message was edited by Dave Marshall on 29 April 2006 at 09:25 PM.]
Topic: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 28 Apr 2006 7:38 pm Subject: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	I was mistaken in believing tension was the main cause of loss of string tonality. Therefore my equation for string life, as Jim Sliff says, "makes no sense". Here's a clip from a Spanish style guita ...
Topic: Mini Chord Location Chart for Newbies
Dave Marshall Replies: 1 Views: 533	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 28 Apr 2006 4:58 am Subject: Mini Chord Location Chart for Newbies
Dave Marshall Replies: 1 Views: 533	I am a newbie, and I have made myself a mini chart of chord locations for E9 tuning. It may be helpful to other newbies. The chart is based on the minimum copedent shown below. Knee G is very helpf ...
Topic: C6 lever analysis
Dave Marshall Replies: 5 Views: 767	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 23 Apr 2006 6:59 pm Subject: C6 lever analysis
Dave Marshall Replies: 5 Views: 767	Thanks for catching my error, John. Bummer! It looks like I got the F in the wrong column first time around, then I did an edit to move it right to G#. Luckily it did not affect the reasoning in tryin ...
Topic: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 22 Apr 2006 11:06 am Subject: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	PF says: quote:They can't take the constant stretching from the pedals over a long period, and still keep their sustain and tuning. (snip) In the studio I change every 3 to 7 days. Guitarists chan ...
Topic: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 22 Apr 2006 10:54 am Subject: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	I thought the main reason people changed strings every few weeks was because the "brightness" (and I don't mean the shine)disappeared after being stretched for 24 hrs a day for that long.
Topic: C6 lever analysis
Dave Marshall Replies: 5 Views: 767	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 Apr 2006 6:02 pm Subject: C6 lever analysis
Dave Marshall Replies: 5 Views: 767	More newbie thinking: I have just been analysing C6 copedents since I am in the process of building another PSG. Some guys put a D on top and some put a G on top, and keep swapping them as the mood ...
Topic: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 Apr 2006 5:57 pm Subject: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	Thanks for the viewpoint, gentlemen. I was concerned with string brightness rather than breakage.
Topic: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 21 Apr 2006 6:18 am Subject: Slacker Latch
Dave Marshall Replies: 12 Views: 1857	I am a newbie with minimum PS skills, and strange ideas, so I'd like to run something by you pros. To make strings last longer, what do you think of the idea of a precision "Slacker Latch" that would ...
Topic: 6 on 9
Dave Marshall Replies: 10 Views: 1614	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 14 Apr 2006 8:47 pm Subject: 6 on 9
Dave Marshall Replies: 10 Views: 1614	In a post of mine on string-9 dissonance in the "Steel Players" section (resonating with 8 and 10) Bobby Lee said: You don't happen to tune your 9th string to C#, do you? (Some people do.) Thanks Bo ...
Topic: Resonant discord
Dave Marshall Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 13 Apr 2006 9:14 pm Subject: Resonant discord
Dave Marshall Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Thanks for the explanation, John. I guess 12 stringers are even punkier. Mapquest says I am quote:Total Est. Time: 7 hours, 42 minutes Total Est. Distance: 334.34 milesfrom you, so I doubt we ...
Topic: Tipping the bar questions
Dave Marshall Replies: 22 Views: 2323	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Apr 2006 9:20 am Subject: Tipping the bar questions
Dave Marshall Replies: 22 Views: 2323	Bryan Bradfield says: On dobro, I use a bar with quite a sharp cut-out. I do all of my single string work with a tipped bar, contacting only one string at a time. Newbie solution, and probably a bad ...
Topic: Right Hand Blocking Problem
Dave Marshall Replies: 20 Views: 2033	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 13 Apr 2006 9:06 am Subject: Right Hand Blocking Problem
Dave Marshall Replies: 20 Views: 2033	Charles Fager says: The middle finger string lines up with the indented crease between the end of my pinky and my palm, and because of this, I am having great difficulty blocking ringing for that mid ...
Topic: Resonant discord
Dave Marshall Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 12 Apr 2006 6:30 pm Subject: Resonant discord
Dave Marshall Replies: 16 Views: 1621	John Steele says: I have to say though, the very first thing that crossed my mind when I played it was "I wouldn't play that there...". Why not, John, if you did not have the discord? I don't have ...
Topic: Resonant discord
Dave Marshall Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Forum Section: Steel Players Posted: 12 Apr 2006 6:19 pm Subject: Resonant discord
Dave Marshall Replies: 16 Views: 1621	Thanks guys for all the sound advice. No, Bobby, the 9th string is D. If the tune is played at fret 3 instead of 8 the effect is more noticeable. To me a 7, a 7b and a 5 don't make a nice sound. I ...
Topic: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Apr 2006 5:54 pm Subject: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	Thanks, Ray. By the way, the rollers are battery post knobs.
Topic: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Apr 2006 8:36 am Subject: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	I wound the pickup myself ... about 5000 turns of wire. You will see tape on the end where the cover started to lift. It is hummy since it is a single coil. May replace that when I can play better. T ...
Topic: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Apr 2006 8:32 am Subject: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-4/1170557/mar23-06008s.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-4/1170557/mar23-06002s.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-4/1170557/mar23-06006x.jpg http: ...
Topic: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 12 Apr 2006 8:30 am Subject: Movin', not groovin'
Dave Marshall Replies: 13 Views: 1755	OK ... I had to sign up for a photo dump place. Here are the pix. The dangling thing is the cord on the camera. I also edited out shots of my wooly sox in a couple of them. I used rubber bands to hol ...