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Dennis, is the Williams still for sale?

Very nice guitar!

How many guitars use the left-end change? I saw one that was supposedly built by Bobby Bowman that had a changer on both ends. I believe that one end raised and the other lowered. Anyone seen this?

Lee proclaims:
An Internet troll is someone who posts offensive, controversial, or divisive material on an Internet community.

It is not meant to be offensive or controversial, or divisive. It is ...

Billy says:
Mods and now bent cross shafts. What's next? Just look around at who's playing G2's. This bent cross shaft is not a design flaw. Matter of fact, it takes a great designer/builder to even ...

Brint says:
Tony, meaning no disrespect, it seems improbable to me that you don't know what Chris means. It's obvious to me that what he's saying, rephrased to match your formulation, is precisely th ...

Tony says:
Not much difference that I can see. You're stating that laws of physics were not used in the design of, and are not even "in play" for the G2 mechanism at all.

Yes Tony, I t ...

Earnest asks:
I have no idea what that statement means, but I think you mean that Mullen is only "trying" to violate physical laws as currently understood, but have not actually done that. ...

J-D shows:
There is only ONE way this can work:
If you please go back to Bob's (b0b) post on page 5 where he outlined in RED a common axis, THEN the bearings or collars/bushings holding MUST be ins ...

Earnest says:
I thought Chris didn't mean to say that before, because there was no response to my question about which laws of physics are being broken in this case.

Earnest, that means Mullen is ...

b0b, you still there?

Have you tried the "hanger" experiment?

Confused

Tony:
Chris Lang wrote:
That's all well and fine, but the laws of physics are still around, being applied today! (except in the case of the mysterious bent rods)
Chris, It sure seems you are sta ...

b0b says:
That's absolutely silly, Chris. A steel guitar can't violate the laws of physics. We don't need "scientific evidence" to prove that. Nobody is claiming magic.

Now, if I may, I ...

Erv says:
We're getting waaaaay to fancy here.
Something like this would be easier and less complicated. It would allow for some deviation in the axis of rotation.:

You would still have the add ...

Richard said:
This makes the use of a centre brace necessary but almost impossible unless the center of the joint can be ground so as to supply a smooth bearing surface and the brace, itself, mounted ...

Oh Pete, I guess I forgot to answer your question.

I play in a small to medium church on Wednesdays, and Sundays.

As far as brand of guitar, I play a GFI SD-10 3x5. Keyless of course!

(I bet ...

Richard shows:
A miniature double-universal joint should make everyone happy, as the cost of one with a 5/16 bore is not too exorbitant, and a centre brace can then be incorporated

Excellent R ...

Tony:
Sorry Chris........the basic laws of basic physics (mechanics) do apply to Mullen bent rods. They violate none of them.

The off-center axis of each shaft just mean that there is a crank-sha ...

Bent:
You still ignore the fact that the bent rods work as intended, with good measure.

Never said they didn't work. Only pointed out they are not as effecient as they should be, and a design f ...

Bent:
Chris,I told you I didn't mind the Bent jokes attached to my name. That was then, This is now:
I have you figured out...when you are starting to feel backed against a wall you start upping th ...

Danny says:
I thought a design flaw was something that doesn't work right. If it works fine, then how can it be a design flaw?

Also, how can anybody possibly think those shafts are ugly?

If I ...

Bent to the point of breaking:
It is merely a visual flaw in the eye of the observer who doesn't like the bend.

Uh...... No. It is in fact a design flaw by physical definition!

Several have t ...

Bent again

sure the axis is different... by a quarter inch. But that is ok and also sound engineering, because it is not like you say that the ends have to "squirm" as you scientifically ...

Ross says:
for anyone who's interested I modeled this up in Solidworks. Mating the bent rod at each end to the two different bores concentrically will not allow the bent rod to rotate. The only way i ...

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Topic: close
Chris Lang Replies: 18 Views: 7044	Forum Section: For Sale: Steel Guitars Posted: 2 Sep 2010 5:12 pm Subject: close
Chris Lang Replies: 18 Views: 7044	Dennis, is the Williams still for sale?
Topic: My new "Custom Built" Rittenberry
Chris Lang Replies: 16 Views: 6127	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 2 Sep 2010 5:07 pm Subject: My new "Custom Built" Rittenberry
Chris Lang Replies: 16 Views: 6127	Very nice guitar!
Topic: Left handed changers
Chris Lang Replies: 4 Views: 1540	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 2 Sep 2010 4:55 pm Subject: Left handed changers
Chris Lang Replies: 4 Views: 1540	How many guitars use the left-end change? I saw one that was supposedly built by Bobby Bowman that had a changer on both ends. I believe that one end raised and the other lowered. Anyone seen this?
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 31 Aug 2010 6:17 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Lee proclaims: An Internet troll is someone who posts offensive, controversial, or divisive material on an Internet community. It is not meant to be offensive or controversial, or divisive. It is ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 31 Aug 2010 3:57 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Billy says: Mods and now bent cross shafts. What's next? Just look around at who's playing G2's. This bent cross shaft is not a design flaw. Matter of fact, it takes a great designer/builder to even ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 31 Aug 2010 2:31 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Brint says: Tony, meaning no disrespect, it seems improbable to me that you don't know what Chris means. It's obvious to me that what he's saying, rephrased to match your formulation, is precisely th ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 5:04 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Tony says: Not much difference that I can see. You're stating that laws of physics were not used in the design of, and are not even "in play" for the G2 mechanism at all. Yes Tony, I t ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 2:38 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Earnest asks: I have no idea what that statement means, but I think you mean that Mullen is only "trying" to violate physical laws as currently understood, but have not actually done that. ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 1:45 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 1:18 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	J-D shows: There is only ONE way this can work: If you please go back to Bob's (b0b) post on page 5 where he outlined in RED a common axis, THEN the bearings or collars/bushings holding MUST be ins ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 1:11 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Earnest says: I thought Chris didn't mean to say that before, because there was no response to my question about which laws of physics are being broken in this case. Earnest, that means Mullen is ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 12:14 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	b0b, you still there? Have you tried the "hanger" experiment?
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 12:09 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Tony: Chris Lang wrote: That's all well and fine, but the laws of physics are still around, being applied today! (except in the case of the mysterious bent rods) Chris, It sure seems you are sta ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 10:56 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	b0b says: That's absolutely silly, Chris. A steel guitar can't violate the laws of physics. We don't need "scientific evidence" to prove that. Nobody is claiming magic. Now, if I may, I ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 9:08 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Erv says: We're getting waaaaay to fancy here. Something like this would be easier and less complicated. It would allow for some deviation in the axis of rotation.: You would still have the add ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 8:42 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Richard said: This makes the use of a centre brace necessary but almost impossible unless the center of the joint can be ground so as to supply a smooth bearing surface and the brace, itself, mounted ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 8:11 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Oh Pete, I guess I forgot to answer your question. I play in a small to medium church on Wednesdays, and Sundays. As far as brand of guitar, I play a GFI SD-10 3x5. Keyless of course! (I bet ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 7:23 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Richard shows: A miniature double-universal joint should make everyone happy, as the cost of one with a 5/16 bore is not too exorbitant, and a centre brace can then be incorporated Excellent R ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 7:14 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Tony: Sorry Chris........the basic laws of basic physics (mechanics) do apply to Mullen bent rods. They violate none of them. The off-center axis of each shaft just mean that there is a crank-sha ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 6:08 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Bent: You still ignore the fact that the bent rods work as intended, with good measure. Never said they didn't work. Only pointed out they are not as effecient as they should be, and a design f ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 5:36 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Bent: Chris,I told you I didn't mind the Bent jokes attached to my name. That was then, This is now: I have you figured out...when you are starting to feel backed against a wall you start upping th ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 30 Aug 2010 4:38 am Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Danny says: I thought a design flaw was something that doesn't work right. If it works fine, then how can it be a design flaw? Also, how can anybody possibly think those shafts are ugly? If I ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 29 Aug 2010 6:34 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Bent to the point of breaking: It is merely a visual flaw in the eye of the observer who doesn't like the bend. Uh...... No. It is in fact a design flaw by physical definition! Several have t ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 29 Aug 2010 6:07 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Bent again sure the axis is different... by a quarter inch. But that is ok and also sound engineering, because it is not like you say that the ends have to "squirm" as you scientifically ...
Topic: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Forum Section: Pedal Steel Posted: 29 Aug 2010 6:05 pm Subject: Mullen Bent Cross Rods
Chris Lang Replies: 208 Views: 65769	Ross says: for anyone who's interested I modeled this up in Solidworks. Mating the bent rod at each end to the two different bores concentrically will not allow the bent rod to rotate. The only way i ...