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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
With my limited grinding ability (my wife won’t be springing for one of those high end belt grinders like on TV). … hogging off hardened high carbon steel-all while keeping the temperature low, really isn’t going to happen with a belt sander and a grinding wheel.
So when they come out of that quench , I’m just going to wire brush them, degrease and plate … to prevent oxidation.
Knife guys temper after heat treating, softens it just abit by using controlled sessions at various temps & times … a necessary step to reduce brittleness) so producing heat while grinding hardened steel isn’t critical to them
So when they come out of that quench , I’m just going to wire brush them, degrease and plate … to prevent oxidation.
Knife guys temper after heat treating, softens it just abit by using controlled sessions at various temps & times … a necessary step to reduce brittleness) so producing heat while grinding hardened steel isn’t critical to them
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
Here’s what it looks like ….
I also ran the big ones for another 30 minutes … looks like a I hr immersion is best
Thanks for watching
I also ran the big ones for another 30 minutes … looks like a I hr immersion is best
Thanks for watching
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Michael Kiese
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Re: Thick Magnets
Mahalo for sharing your notes for posterity, Rick!
I'm sure there is someone now, or in the future who will be happy that you documented this on the forum.
I'm sure there is someone now, or in the future who will be happy that you documented this on the forum.
Aloha,
Mike K

1935 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 S7 Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1937 S7 Epiphone Electar, 1937 Epiphone Electar, 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1950 Supro Comet, 1950's Rickenbacher ACE, 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan, 1951 D8 Fender Professional, 1953 T8 Fender Custom, 1957 National New Yorker, 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster, 1961 Supro Comet, 1963 Supro Comet, S8 VanderDonck Frypan.
Mike K
1935 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 S7 Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1937 S7 Epiphone Electar, 1937 Epiphone Electar, 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1950 Supro Comet, 1950's Rickenbacher ACE, 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan, 1951 D8 Fender Professional, 1953 T8 Fender Custom, 1957 National New Yorker, 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster, 1961 Supro Comet, 1963 Supro Comet, S8 VanderDonck Frypan.
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
All done with this seven stringer … going into a prewar A25
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Anthony Parish
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Re: Thick Magnets
I have been lurking in the background reading these posts and I gotta say: the work you are doing with these pickups warms my heart. Thank you for advancing the adjacent possible of pickup design, Rick!
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Gary Meixner
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Re: Thick Magnets
Rick,
Your original post and subsequent follow-up inspired me to learn more about magnetism which led me to read a brief biography of C. F. Gauss. The guy sure was a heavyweight. I don’t know what they were putting in their pilsner back then, but Germany was home to a lot of smart dudes. Apparently in his day it was common for men of distinction to have a personal motto, his was quite memorable: “Pauca sed Matura” which when translated from Latin means: “Few, but ripe”. I might have to borrow that. His birthday is coming at the end of April, perhaps you plan on celebrating it. Thanks for all your posts: they are always educational and often entertaining.
G. E. Meixner
Your original post and subsequent follow-up inspired me to learn more about magnetism which led me to read a brief biography of C. F. Gauss. The guy sure was a heavyweight. I don’t know what they were putting in their pilsner back then, but Germany was home to a lot of smart dudes. Apparently in his day it was common for men of distinction to have a personal motto, his was quite memorable: “Pauca sed Matura” which when translated from Latin means: “Few, but ripe”. I might have to borrow that. His birthday is coming at the end of April, perhaps you plan on celebrating it. Thanks for all your posts: they are always educational and often entertaining.
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
It’s new home :
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
The next logical project … 1” x 1/4” 1095
They will mount on a series of closed cell foam plates … lining the pickup bay … reduce pedal/knee noise
They will mount on a series of closed cell foam plates … lining the pickup bay … reduce pedal/knee noise
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
The 1” wide pair in front are going into a Bigsby/Clinesmith , the other pair is for the ShoBud
They’re going to get heat treated and quenched tomorrow…
Should know in a couple of days if my “foam installation” plans for the psg pay off
They’re going to get heat treated and quenched tomorrow…
Should know in a couple of days if my “foam installation” plans for the psg pay off
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Michael Kiese
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Re: Thick Magnets
The 1/4" think mags look great! Great look and more juice = more gooder!
People better get them while they're hot! Pun intended! lol.
People better get them while they're hot! Pun intended! lol.
Aloha,
Mike K

1935 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 S7 Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1937 S7 Epiphone Electar, 1937 Epiphone Electar, 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1950 Supro Comet, 1950's Rickenbacher ACE, 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan, 1951 D8 Fender Professional, 1953 T8 Fender Custom, 1957 National New Yorker, 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster, 1961 Supro Comet, 1963 Supro Comet, S8 VanderDonck Frypan.
Mike K
1935 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 S7 Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1937 S7 Epiphone Electar, 1937 Epiphone Electar, 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1950 Supro Comet, 1950's Rickenbacher ACE, 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan, 1951 D8 Fender Professional, 1953 T8 Fender Custom, 1957 National New Yorker, 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster, 1961 Supro Comet, 1963 Supro Comet, S8 VanderDonck Frypan.
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
Well, the Liberty Bell
is cracked too …
A very violent “birth” …

A very violent “birth” …
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Michael Kiese
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Re: Thick Magnets
The Mana was too strong with that one. lol.
Aloha,
Mike K

1935 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 S7 Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1937 S7 Epiphone Electar, 1937 Epiphone Electar, 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1950 Supro Comet, 1950's Rickenbacher ACE, 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan, 1951 D8 Fender Professional, 1953 T8 Fender Custom, 1957 National New Yorker, 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster, 1961 Supro Comet, 1963 Supro Comet, S8 VanderDonck Frypan.
Mike K
1935 A22 Rickenbacher Frypan, 1937 S7 Prewar Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1937 S7 Epiphone Electar, 1937 Epiphone Electar, 1940's Post War Rickenbacher Bakelite, 1950 Supro Comet, 1950's Rickenbacher ACE, 1950's Rickenbacher A25 Frypan, 1951 D8 Fender Professional, 1953 T8 Fender Custom, 1957 National New Yorker, 1955 Q8 Fender Stringmaster, 1961 Supro Comet, 1963 Supro Comet, S8 VanderDonck Frypan.
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Mark Evans
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Re: Thick Magnets
Perhaps, with a flaw birthed in fire, a unique tonal ‘voice’ will emerge?
(E.g. Willie Nelson’s ‘Trigger’ with the gaping hole)
And then the prospect of recreating the flaw for the hungry masses of lap steel players
(See # of steel players/100,000 population thread here somewhere)
(E.g. Willie Nelson’s ‘Trigger’ with the gaping hole)
And then the prospect of recreating the flaw for the hungry masses of lap steel players
(See # of steel players/100,000 population thread here somewhere)
Larry Pogreba Baritone 'Weissenheimer
Late 30’s Oahu model 229
1940’s Oahu Tonemaster
LSLME Chatsworth (Lap Steel Legacy Mark Evans w/Sentell cust. Single coil)
1939 Gibson EH-100
2017 Richard Wilson Weissenborn style
Quilter 202 w/dockblock10
Late 30’s Oahu model 229
1940’s Oahu Tonemaster
LSLME Chatsworth (Lap Steel Legacy Mark Evans w/Sentell cust. Single coil)
1939 Gibson EH-100
2017 Richard Wilson Weissenborn style
Quilter 202 w/dockblock10
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
Well, put it down as an extra dose of “mojo” … 
As for the little 1” wide ones … they got heat treated yesterday too and charged up big time …
Did a quick test on the ShoBud, they sound pretty much the same as their bigger counterparts … picks up the pedal noise real well … ha ha … good thing I’m a non-traditional user
https://youtu.be/OA9Gobl9d2I?si=3u6_SoCK7TEKUuZ-
As for the little 1” wide ones … they got heat treated yesterday too and charged up big time …
Did a quick test on the ShoBud, they sound pretty much the same as their bigger counterparts … picks up the pedal noise real well … ha ha … good thing I’m a non-traditional user
https://youtu.be/OA9Gobl9d2I?si=3u6_SoCK7TEKUuZ-
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Rick Aiello
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Re: Thick Magnets
In reality … after a few days practice the pedal noise .. well here is a segment of Drowsy Waters which I use pedals on just about every other note …
https://youtu.be/J7HP5x4XpSE?si=HTXnTPv-qXMyLWFl
I’m happy …, Luigi’s happy

Again, thanks for watching the evolution of the thick magnets
https://youtu.be/J7HP5x4XpSE?si=HTXnTPv-qXMyLWFl
I’m happy …, Luigi’s happy
Again, thanks for watching the evolution of the thick magnets